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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;seth77, post: 3910179, member: 56653&quot;]The coinage of Vienne is usually very common.</p><p><br /></p><p>The earlier coinage, the <i>grand deniers</i> are scarcer.</p><p><br /></p><p>But this <i>grand denier</i>, minted most likely under Thibaut as Sire and Bishop is extremely rare.</p><p><br /></p><p>Thibaut came from the royal family of Burgundy and ruled Vienne from cca. 957 to his death in 1001. His coinage is usually nominal, but this issue is anonymous. Poey d&#039;Avant considers these coins (#4818 and #4819) later than the ones bearing the bishop&#039;s name, on account of their lower weight and &quot;feudal&quot; style, so they likely date to around 1000.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1030640[/ATTACH]</p><p><font size="3"><i>AR21x19mm 1g silver grand denier, minted at Vienne cca. 1000.</i></font></p><p><font size="3"><i>+ VIENNA CV; cross</i></font></p><p><font size="3"><i>+ SCI MAVRIC ⠂ ; dot in middle of plain field.</i></font></p><p><font size="3"><i>Poey d&#039;Avant #4818 Pl. CVI 7, not in Boudeau.</i></font></p><p><br /></p><p>Another example was recorded by M. Morin and Poey d&#039;Avant, described in Poey d&#039;Avant&#039;s work (Pl. CVI 7), and was in the collection of the Grenoble Museum, while another was sold privately in France in the summer of 2019.</p><p><br /></p><p>Possibly, the plain field with the dot in the middle was inspired by the silver Fatimid half dirham of the mid 10th century, something similar to <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1482524" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1482524" rel="nofollow">this coin</a> of al-Mu&#039;izz al-Din Allah of the Fatimid dynasty of Egypt.</p><p><br /></p><p>The plain field with no design is not unique to Vienne at this particularly interesting time in history -- the beginning of the feudal organization in Western Europe -- a similar and also very rare <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=871089" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=871089" rel="nofollow">grand denier</a>, also dated to around 1000, was minted by the Bishopric of Langres.</p><p><br /></p><p>This is one of those series that require more specimens and research.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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