the best morgan 1921 Farran Zerbe

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by gianni, May 10, 2019.

  1. gianni

    gianni Active Member

    first of all these proof like of zerbe were ordered to denver and sanfrancisco because philadelfia was very much engaged in the work on the brand new mint coins of peace, subsequently order to not issue the mint and many claim that all 100% come from denver even those without sign Mint and then data incorrectly assigned to Philadelphia, it was impossible in those days for Philadelphia to do this work
     
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  3. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    It doesn’t matter. You don’t have a zerbe coin. Sorry.
     
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  4. jgrinz

    jgrinz Senior Member

    I am convinced it is not … Nicely polished though
    Certified up is the final word
     
  5. gianni

    gianni Active Member

    those who arrived with the initials D and S were all destroyed and handed over to Farran only those without a mint name but they were all minted at the denver plant and none was minted in philadelfia there they worked only on some proof of the peace dollar. even those of Chapman were minted in denver and not in philadelfia. The coinage is that of denver recognizable by many details
     
  6. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    The Philadelphia Zerbe's WERE minted in Philadelphia, the S mint Zerbe's WERE minted in San Francisco, and the Zerbe proofs were minted at the beginning of the Morgan production which was was in early to mid 1921. The Mint was NOT busy on the Peace dollar because it wasn't even approved for production until the last week of Nov (the final Peace treaty ending WWi wasn't signed until I believe Nov 21st.) and the design wasn't approved until the second week of December. NOTHING was done at the mint on the Peace dollar until the last two weeks of the year, and production didn't start until December 28th.
     
  7. gianni

    gianni Active Member

    there are not OFFICIALLY proof morgan coins of philadelfia for 1921, both the Zerbe and the Chapman proof are the result of clandestine work and were certainly not minted in philadelfia but in a mint that was not to expose its sign (S .. D). even the idiots understand that a clandestine work done by a few hundred pieces was not to carry the name of mint and therefore those wrongly made by denver and sanfrancisco were immediately destroyed and only those without a mint name that were later attributed to philadelfia were impossible to clan given that Philadelphia worked on proofs of the peace dollar and could not logically mint coins NEVER officially registered in the Philadelphia Test 1921, the only ticks that could have operated illegally were San Francisco or Denver with the consent of the famous morgan who fell into this dirty investigation of clandestinity
     
  8. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    I say send it to PCGS and end this ridiculous thread...:troll:
     
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  9. gianni

    gianni Active Member

    pcgs has already had some morgan proof zerbe denver in the past but has never recognized them, since they are the result of a possible clandestine coinage that you don't understand !!! regards
     
  10. BlackberryPie

    BlackberryPie I like pie

    Ya Dave. You just don't understand. Lol.
     
  11. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    This has to be a troll at this point right?
     
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  12. jgrinz

    jgrinz Senior Member

    Please stop bringing this to the top … oops dont do what I did
     
  13. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    This OP is still showing his polished granpa's coin and now claiming it is a Zerbe? This is at least the 3rd thread he has started on this exact same coin. AU details polished as in all the previous posts. He keeps posting but it doesn't change the truth.
     
  14. jgrinz

    jgrinz Senior Member

    hhahha so funny … He cuts and pastes messages from one post to the other.
    As I said before I am done Yet I have done it again .. I hate me
     
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  15. BlackberryPie

    BlackberryPie I like pie

    I'm waiting for Zerbe's relatives to show up before I can come to final conclusion about this circulated and polished piece.:troll:
     
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  16. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    End of story. There are NO Denver Zerbe coins in existence. Philadelphia, yes. San Francisco, yes. Denver, NO.

    Either, it is a highly polished and cleaned 1921 D garden variety Morgan, or it is Zerbe, by way of Beijing. Then, it should have a “B” mintmark???:happy:
     
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  17. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    I suggest you post this Morgan on VAMworld 2 for all the Morgan experts to see. Then come back and post the results... Or I will for you.....;):p:troll:

    Oh, and regards back atcha.....
     
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  18. gianni

    gianni Active Member

    sure, you can do it without problems I authorize you to forward photos to VAM experts, if you need higher resolution photos you can ask me it's not a problem. regards
     

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  19. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    I'll just call in an expert in the field, @messydesk

    My apology for dragging you into this JB, but....
     
  20. gianni

    gianni Active Member

    this coin is not at all a classic morgan even if you mix it among other thousand of morgan you notice it in 1 second and at a distance of 10 meters that it is not regular this piece of coin, or it is a reproduction made in china, I have no idea it seems a mixture of Chapman (proof) and Zerbe (prooflike) models, even if it had been washed or polished in the past impossible that today appears in this state, appears to be made of glass more than silver, regular diameter and weight (38mm 26.68gr). I remain available should they serve specific photos to morgan experts. regards
     
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    gianni Active Member

    This high pic take now open area and sun, reflect the blue sky
     

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