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<p>[QUOTE="Salaethus, post: 4036858, member: 109856"]So I did some further digging on the question of the identity of the <i>three</i> <i>Moneta</i>e. Disclaimer- I am not an expert by any stretch of the imagination, I'm simply a curious individual who enjoys seeking out little details in the ancient coins I own. I haven't been able to find any scholarly articles about this, I wonder if someone here might have any leads for me. I did find several articles about the Roman Republican mint and its vicinity to the temple of Juno Moneta. The articles I found weren't exactly useful for my investigation but I found the idea of a statue group in the Juno Moneta temple that could have inspired the image of the <i>three Monetae</i> tantalizing.</p><p><br /></p><p>I wanted to test my initial observations on my coin by finding as many other examples of <i>three Monetae</i> coins as I could online. I found some interesting things. This medallion of Commodus makes it clear that the middle position is the position of honor, a pedestal clearly raises her above the others. I also found that for the most part, the middle <i>Moneta</i>, now presumably the personification of gold, generally always had the sleeker dress without the extra drapery, and with the distinct, pointed hairstyle.[ATTACH=full]1059899[/ATTACH]</p><p>I also found that the <i>three Monetae</i> type was used by quite a number of late 3rd century emperors on their large bronze medallions. It's interesting that the <i>Monetae </i>type was frequently used on these special medallions by emperors whose regular coinage had become increasingly debased and crudely minted. These medallions were certainly struck in the finest style for the time period, and note the additional detail of piles of coins below the scales. I found more examples of Probus than any other emperor, who instituted a monetary reform during his reign, though I found examples of medallions from just about every 3rd century emperor after 250 AD as well as some from the beginning of the 4th century. I noted that on many of these examples the middle Moneta carries her cornucopia reversed. A catalog of these types is certainly far beyond my scope, so I'll just post some beautiful examples I found and stop talking now![ATTACH=full]1059912[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1059913[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1059914[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1059915[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1059916[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]1059920[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1059934[/ATTACH]</p><p>The last thing of note is that, at least for the <i>Monetae</i> of Septimius Severus, the differences I noted in the cornucopiae exist across practically every die. The left-most <i>Moneta</i>'s cornucopia seems to always be the most plain, with the least embellishments protruding from the top. The middle and right-most's cornucopiae almost always have extra rays and detail escaping from the top. Here's a good example:[ATTACH=full]1059926[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Salaethus, post: 4036858, member: 109856"]So I did some further digging on the question of the identity of the [I]three[/I] [I]Moneta[/I]e. Disclaimer- I am not an expert by any stretch of the imagination, I'm simply a curious individual who enjoys seeking out little details in the ancient coins I own. I haven't been able to find any scholarly articles about this, I wonder if someone here might have any leads for me. I did find several articles about the Roman Republican mint and its vicinity to the temple of Juno Moneta. The articles I found weren't exactly useful for my investigation but I found the idea of a statue group in the Juno Moneta temple that could have inspired the image of the [I]three Monetae[/I] tantalizing. I wanted to test my initial observations on my coin by finding as many other examples of [I]three Monetae[/I] coins as I could online. I found some interesting things. This medallion of Commodus makes it clear that the middle position is the position of honor, a pedestal clearly raises her above the others. I also found that for the most part, the middle [I]Moneta[/I], now presumably the personification of gold, generally always had the sleeker dress without the extra drapery, and with the distinct, pointed hairstyle.[ATTACH=full]1059899[/ATTACH] I also found that the [I]three Monetae[/I] type was used by quite a number of late 3rd century emperors on their large bronze medallions. It's interesting that the [I]Monetae [/I]type was frequently used on these special medallions by emperors whose regular coinage had become increasingly debased and crudely minted. These medallions were certainly struck in the finest style for the time period, and note the additional detail of piles of coins below the scales. I found more examples of Probus than any other emperor, who instituted a monetary reform during his reign, though I found examples of medallions from just about every 3rd century emperor after 250 AD as well as some from the beginning of the 4th century. I noted that on many of these examples the middle Moneta carries her cornucopia reversed. A catalog of these types is certainly far beyond my scope, so I'll just post some beautiful examples I found and stop talking now![ATTACH=full]1059912[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1059913[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1059914[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1059915[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1059916[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]1059920[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1059934[/ATTACH] The last thing of note is that, at least for the [I]Monetae[/I] of Septimius Severus, the differences I noted in the cornucopiae exist across practically every die. The left-most [I]Moneta[/I]'s cornucopia seems to always be the most plain, with the least embellishments protruding from the top. The middle and right-most's cornucopiae almost always have extra rays and detail escaping from the top. Here's a good example:[ATTACH=full]1059926[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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