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<p>[QUOTE="19Lyds, post: 2327879, member: 15929"]Ya mean like the Speared Bison?</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://forums.collectors.com/messageview.aspx?catid=26&threadid=381733" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://forums.collectors.com/messageview.aspx?catid=26&threadid=381733" rel="nofollow">https://forums.collectors.com/messageview.aspx?catid=26&threadid=381733</a></p><p><br /></p><p>David Hall asked the folks on the CU Forums.</p><p><br /></p><p>As for a variety being on the CPG before it is recognized by PCGS, they don't have to be in the CPG.</p><p><br /></p><p>Back around 2005/2006 someone asked if the varieties in the CPG would be recognized and slabbed as such by PCGS. (I have no idea where the thread is).</p><p>David Hall responded that PCGS would attributed ANY coin which was in the CPG.</p><p><br /></p><p>In 2006, when Volume II came out, there was a listing for the 1977-D DDO Kennedy Half Dollar but it was in the "Appendix" with an FS number.</p><p>PCGS would NOT attribute the coin because it was not in the main body of the book with the appropriate "pit-chures" even though it was a major doubled die which did not require imagination to see.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]471546[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Kennedy Collectors knew about this coin since at least 1997 because it exists in James Wiles Kennedy Half Dollar Book. </p><p><br /></p><p>However, it didn't get attributed by PCGS until AFTER it showed up in the body of the CPG.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now, since David Ha;;s comment, a lot of "new" collectors treat the CPG as if it were the Holy Bible of Coin Collecting. Meaning, if it ain't in the CPG it ain't worth a dang!</p><p><br /></p><p>Nothing could be further from the truth and a whole new generation of collectors is being guided by this "biblical" principal.</p><p><br /></p><p>The reality is, is that the CPG is a collection of certain varieties which are popular amongst the different collectors of different coin series.</p><p><br /></p><p>From what I've witnessed, the CPG Publisher will seek out input from various organizations about which variety they think should be in the CPG. That information is gathered and forward to the publisher who in return forwards it to the editor(s). The editor(s) make the final selection of what will be in the body of the book.</p><p><br /></p><p>So, in a more or less fashion, the editor of the CPG decides which coins will be put in and which coins will get moved to the appendix.</p><p><br /></p><p>Given the fluctuations in the market, many coins will appear and then get consigned to the appendix as "market" interest wanes for a particular variety.</p><p>The 1970-D DDR Washington's are good examples because, when that 2006 editin of the VOLUME II came out, these were white hot. Today, not so much and both will be moved to the appendix for the next edition.</p><p><br /></p><p>So, for the CPG "followers", I would suggest learning more about the varieties you collect and let their uniqueness guide you instead of being lead around by the editor of the CPG.</p><p><br /></p><p>BTW, the Accented Hair Kennedy is a "heritage" variety in that the TPG's have been attributing them since well before 2002, probably earlier since it is a well known and sought after variety. Big Bucks await the finder of a CAM or DECAM coin in the higher grades.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="19Lyds, post: 2327879, member: 15929"]Ya mean like the Speared Bison? [url]https://forums.collectors.com/messageview.aspx?catid=26&threadid=381733[/url] David Hall asked the folks on the CU Forums. As for a variety being on the CPG before it is recognized by PCGS, they don't have to be in the CPG. Back around 2005/2006 someone asked if the varieties in the CPG would be recognized and slabbed as such by PCGS. (I have no idea where the thread is). David Hall responded that PCGS would attributed ANY coin which was in the CPG. In 2006, when Volume II came out, there was a listing for the 1977-D DDO Kennedy Half Dollar but it was in the "Appendix" with an FS number. PCGS would NOT attribute the coin because it was not in the main body of the book with the appropriate "pit-chures" even though it was a major doubled die which did not require imagination to see. [ATTACH=full]471546[/ATTACH] Kennedy Collectors knew about this coin since at least 1997 because it exists in James Wiles Kennedy Half Dollar Book. However, it didn't get attributed by PCGS until AFTER it showed up in the body of the CPG. Now, since David Ha;;s comment, a lot of "new" collectors treat the CPG as if it were the Holy Bible of Coin Collecting. Meaning, if it ain't in the CPG it ain't worth a dang! Nothing could be further from the truth and a whole new generation of collectors is being guided by this "biblical" principal. The reality is, is that the CPG is a collection of certain varieties which are popular amongst the different collectors of different coin series. From what I've witnessed, the CPG Publisher will seek out input from various organizations about which variety they think should be in the CPG. That information is gathered and forward to the publisher who in return forwards it to the editor(s). The editor(s) make the final selection of what will be in the body of the book. So, in a more or less fashion, the editor of the CPG decides which coins will be put in and which coins will get moved to the appendix. Given the fluctuations in the market, many coins will appear and then get consigned to the appendix as "market" interest wanes for a particular variety. The 1970-D DDR Washington's are good examples because, when that 2006 editin of the VOLUME II came out, these were white hot. Today, not so much and both will be moved to the appendix for the next edition. So, for the CPG "followers", I would suggest learning more about the varieties you collect and let their uniqueness guide you instead of being lead around by the editor of the CPG. BTW, the Accented Hair Kennedy is a "heritage" variety in that the TPG's have been attributing them since well before 2002, probably earlier since it is a well known and sought after variety. Big Bucks await the finder of a CAM or DECAM coin in the higher grades.[/QUOTE]
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