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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Insider, post: 2500339, member: 24314&quot;]@ messydeck, posted:&nbsp; I will get photographic proof tonight when I have time, since I have EDS and LDS VAM 3 coins available.&nbsp; Of the 20,000 or so pictures I have on my computer of VAMs, I probably have comparisons for VAMs 4 and 5 as well.&nbsp; Since you think this is such a stupid conclusion, you must have far superior proof to support your incorrect conjecture, which I am looking forward to seeing.&nbsp; <span style="color: #b300b3">My proof is already stated.&nbsp; You cannot take a well worn spot on a die inside the &quot;O&quot; and turn it into a flushed, sharp, &quot;S.&quot; The only proof I&#039;ll accept is to see a die state progression from VAM-4 &quot;present EDS&quot; to VAM-4 &quot;present LDS.&quot;&nbsp; I guess VAM-3 works too but VAM-4 appears a much harder test.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; </span></p><p><br /></p><p>The way the EDS coins can become what we see on the LDS coins -- the full diagonal of the S, which is flush with the surface on the VAM 3 -- is the same way we see die chips appear where there previously was none, or how die pitting appears where there was none.&nbsp; Something fell out of the die at the site of the repair (by which I mean changing the mint mark as well as whatever else was done to hide the S).&nbsp; To the contrary, I have never seen a die &quot;fill itself in&quot; and have a chip or break just disappear or become weaker with time. <span style="color: #b300b3">IMO, this is nonsense.&nbsp; Again, we cannot get a perfectly, sharp sided die chip in the shape of an &quot;S&quot; in the exact position needed.&nbsp; However, we can fine a &quot;trace&quot; of this sharp letter remaining when the die is worn.&nbsp; EDS and LDS needs to be reversed on these coins!</span></p><p><br /></p><p>Ideally, you will never see evidence of a repair, <span style="color: #b300b3">very true so how do we prove a repair was ever made?&nbsp; </span>which would mean the repair was done correctly and held.&nbsp; Look at all the 1880 overdates that show only as a checkmark from the 7 on the surface of the 8, yet have clean fields around the rest of the date.&nbsp; <span style="color: #b300b3">True, guess my problem is I don&#039;t call these instances REPAIRS; yet I see your point (die was &quot;dressed&quot;) with these examples of over dates.</span>These were repairs that worked well enough that there&#039;s nothing to see.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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