THE 1850 TWENTY DOLLAR MS64 DMPL

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WHAT IS YOUR OVER ALL JUDGEMENT OF THE TRUTH I HAVE SET BEFORE YOU AND HAS IT AWAKENED A RESPONSE

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  1. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    If the op really wanted his post to be worthwhile why not POST A PIC OF THE COIN?! So we can make our own opinions about it
     
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  3. Whipps

    Whipps Well-Known Member

    1. This may help.


      THE 1850 TWENTY DOLLAR MS 64 DMPL IS THE TRUE PATTERN PIECE OF THE 1850 BUSINESS STRIKE LINE OF THE PHILADELPHIA MINT. IT IS THE FIRST US CURRENCY TWENTY DOLLAR GOLD PIECE EVER STRUCK AND HAS SURVIVED 165 YEARS IN EXCELLENT CONDITION. IT IS A COIN THAT MOST NUMISMATISTS HAVE OVER LOOKED AND HAVE TOTALLY NOT KNOWN OF THIS COINS MOST AMAZING FACTS, WHICH PUTS IT IN A CATEGORY OF ITS OWN. IT IS OF MY OPINION THAT THIS COIN IS GREATER THAN ANY COIN EVER LISTED IN THE TOP100 GREATEST COINS OF AL TIME. I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH MOST ALL OF THEM AND I HAVE SEEN THE 1804 SILVER DOLLAR IN THE SMITHSONIAN COLLECTION, ALONG WITH THE 1849 MODEL TWENTY DOLLAR GOLD PIECE WHICH WAS NEVER US CURRENCY. IT DOES NOT HAVE A BUSINESS LINE THAT FOLLOWS IT, MAKING IT ONE OF TWO MODELS THAT WERE MADE. THATS ALL THEY TRULY ARE IS A MODEL. THEY WERE STRUCK AS PROOFS WITH A DIFFERENT PRESSURE AND MULTIPLE STRIKES TO ACHIEVE THEIR LOOK, MAKING THE PROBABILITY OF THIER GRADE BEING LOWER LESS PROBABLE. THIS MAKES THEM NOT AS RARE AS A COIN WITH A HIGHER RATIO PROBABILITY WHICH IS THE CASE WITH THE 1850 TWENTY DOLLAR MS64 DMPL. REMEMBER IT STARTED OUT AS A PLANCHET AND JUST HAPPENED TO BE THE FIRST IN LINE TO GET IT'S STRIKE ON THE NEW PLATES. THIS ALONE TELLS YOU THIS COIN HIT THE LOTTERY BY RARE CHANCE TO BE WHAT IT IS TODAY, AS WELL AS EVEN EXISTING AFTER 165 YEARS. THIS IS HOW MANY DAYS; MUlTIPLY 165 BY 365 AND DON'T FORGET THE LEAP DAYS, WHICH YOU FIND BY DIVIDING 165 BY 4. ON TOP OF SURVIVING, IT SURVIVED IN WHAT I CALL IMMACULATE PRESENTATION VIEWING APPEAL.
     
  4. Whipps

    Whipps Well-Known Member

    Sorry I'm not going to fix the CAPS problem.
     
  5. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Chris
     
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  6. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    Kewl!
     
  7. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    It helps not one bit. I didn't read it as all caps is impossible to read.
     
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  8. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    sentences, punctuation & paragraphs are our friends.
     
  9. Rassi

    Rassi #GoCubs #FlyTheW #WeAreGood

    Is this easier to read?

    The 1850 twenty dollar ms 64 DMPL is the true pattern piece of the 1850 business strike line of the Philadelphia mint. It is the first us currency twenty dollar gold piece ever struck and has survived 165 years in excellent condition. It is a coin that most numismatists have over looked and have totally not known of this coins most amazing facts, which puts it in a category of its own. It is of my opinion that this coin is greater than any coin ever listed in the top100 greatest coins of all time. I am very familiar with most all of them and I have seen the 1804 silver dollar in the Smithsonian collection, along with the 1849 model twenty dollar gold piece which was never us currency. It does not have a business line that follows it, making it one of two models that were made. That’s all they truly are a model. They were struck as proofs with a different pressure and multiple strikes to achieve their look, making the probability of their grade being lower less probable. This makes them not as rare as a coin with a higher ratio probability which is the case with the 1850 twenty dollar ms64 DMPL. Remember it started out as a planchet and just happened to be the first in line to get its strike on the new plates. This alone tells you this coin hit the lottery by rare chance to be what it is today, as well as even existing after 165 years. This is how many days; multiply 165 by 365 and don't forget the leap days, which you find by dividing 165 by 4. On top of surviving, it survived in what I call immaculate presentation viewing appeal.
     
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  10. Whipps

    Whipps Well-Known Member

    Getting there
     
  11. OldGoldGuy

    OldGoldGuy Members Only Jacket

    What are you, or your poll, even talking about man? You need to lay off the uppers and find a new hobby to become the king of because obviously there is nothing left in numismatics for you to conquer. So, with that said, byebye.
     
  12. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    excellent corrections.

    :)
     
  13. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Even better, not perfect, but better.

    Paragraphs are our friends.

    And editing is a fun thing to do, and make sense of your writing.
     
  14. Rassi

    Rassi #GoCubs #FlyTheW #WeAreGood

    I didn't think it deserved a lot of effort, but someone else had already punctuated it so I thought the least I could do was run it thru MS-Word's "Sentence Case" mode and do a spell-check....
     
  15. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

    1850 was NOT the first $20 gold to be struck the 49 was
     
  16. mlov43

    mlov43 주화 수집가

    This coin's title, "The 1850 twenty dollar ms 64 DMPL" seems imply that this is some hot-stuff singular coin. And I see from this title that it has been graded.

    Okay... in whose collection is this coin? Any extant images? I did a cursory search and only found references to shipwreck gold.

    Usually I could care less about yellow discs like this, but the conversation surrounding the OP has piqued my interest.
     
  17. imrich

    imrich Supporter! Supporter

    Since we're being critical, would you consider the first LETTER of a sentence providing greater clarity/brevity?
     
    Last edited: Jan 12, 2015
  18. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    The NGC census shows no PL or DMPL Double Eagles graded for 1850. PCGS does not designate PL or DMPL on anything except the Morgan (with a few minor exceptions).

    Thus, I have absolutely no idea what this guy is talking about.
     
  19. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    I believe he does acknowledge this if you care to wade through and decipher that train wreck of a post.
     
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