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<p>[QUOTE="WingedLiberty, post: 1409146, member: 26030"]Lehigh, thank you for the feedback! Yes, I just love that 1937 Fire and Ice Proof I bought from you -- and actually the photo you took was GREAT, you captured the colors perfectly. I think your only issue was slab glare -- it's clear what an incredible advantage Phil has shooting the coins out the slab.</p><p><br /></p><p>Yes, I agree the Flash Index is a not a perfect system ... but I was hoping it would provide some FOOD FOR THOUGHT in others to perhaps improve on it. I have never seen anyone even attempt to score toned coins in any sort of comprehensive system. It's not an easy task! In developing the system I actually broke down what I do in my own mind when I find I prefer one toned coin over another. My four categories on color was on purpose! Since I am a color guy I wanted the vast majority of the score to come from color alone. Also I broke down the color categories into the four primary ones I use in my own head: Impression (a first glance appeal), Transition (smooth transitions of one color to another or a lack of hard color borders or lines), Coordination (or how all the colors look together, do they clash, or is it pleasing to the eye), and finally Rarity (or how rare is the coloration, a bit of common rim toning would score low, while crazy vibrant color that is rare to find, would score high)</p><p><br /></p><p>I suppose my hope was this would start the wheels turning in the minds of others in terms of why they find certain toned coins more appealing that others -- what sort of process do you go through in your own mind to make that determination? </p><p><br /></p><p>You EXACTLY understand my restriction of PCGS only!!! And you are so right that if I opened it up to ALL grading companies and all photographers it would be impossible to compare coins through photos. Using a Single photographer for all coins provides the kind of "level playing field" i needed to make this work. </p><p><br /></p><p>I totally agree that I think there are a number of fantastic coin photographers other than Phil Arnold, however I think that Phils advantage of shooting coins out of the slab is HUGE and difficult for other through-the-slab photographers to overcome. </p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks again for the kudos !!!</p><p><br /></p><p>It was a really fun and enlightening project and I hope others get something out of it as well -- even if it just makes them think ![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="WingedLiberty, post: 1409146, member: 26030"]Lehigh, thank you for the feedback! Yes, I just love that 1937 Fire and Ice Proof I bought from you -- and actually the photo you took was GREAT, you captured the colors perfectly. I think your only issue was slab glare -- it's clear what an incredible advantage Phil has shooting the coins out the slab. Yes, I agree the Flash Index is a not a perfect system ... but I was hoping it would provide some FOOD FOR THOUGHT in others to perhaps improve on it. I have never seen anyone even attempt to score toned coins in any sort of comprehensive system. It's not an easy task! In developing the system I actually broke down what I do in my own mind when I find I prefer one toned coin over another. My four categories on color was on purpose! Since I am a color guy I wanted the vast majority of the score to come from color alone. Also I broke down the color categories into the four primary ones I use in my own head: Impression (a first glance appeal), Transition (smooth transitions of one color to another or a lack of hard color borders or lines), Coordination (or how all the colors look together, do they clash, or is it pleasing to the eye), and finally Rarity (or how rare is the coloration, a bit of common rim toning would score low, while crazy vibrant color that is rare to find, would score high) I suppose my hope was this would start the wheels turning in the minds of others in terms of why they find certain toned coins more appealing that others -- what sort of process do you go through in your own mind to make that determination? You EXACTLY understand my restriction of PCGS only!!! And you are so right that if I opened it up to ALL grading companies and all photographers it would be impossible to compare coins through photos. Using a Single photographer for all coins provides the kind of "level playing field" i needed to make this work. I totally agree that I think there are a number of fantastic coin photographers other than Phil Arnold, however I think that Phils advantage of shooting coins out of the slab is HUGE and difficult for other through-the-slab photographers to overcome. Thanks again for the kudos !!! It was a really fun and enlightening project and I hope others get something out of it as well -- even if it just makes them think ![/QUOTE]
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