The “11th” (not really) 1933 St. Gaudens $20

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  1. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Guardian of The Farce, & Dead-Eye Master

    This year at the ANA banquet, I didn’t get to sit with the Mint’s legal counsel who argued the Langbord case, unlike last year, but I did get a chance to chat with him at the Mint’s booth. I wanted to know a little something about the 1933 that was voluntarily turned in to the Mint after the Langbord litigation was over.

    Mostly I wanted to know if the owner was a “known name” in numismatics or some mystery man. And I got the answer.

    He responded that “people who know people” in numismatics would instantly know the name, but it wasn’t a “household name” in the hobby. The name would be meaningless to the casual hobbyist, but one real involved people would know. I didn’t press.
     
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  3. calcol

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    I wonder though if the "11th coin" is the same one pictured in Alison Frankel's book on the Farouk coin. Her book was published before the Langbord hoard was revealed and showed one coin believed to be in private hands other than the Farouk coin. It's very unlikely the coin was one of the Langbord coins. But could this "11th coin" be the same one pictured in Frankel's book?

    The number of coins known to exist is a little fuzzy now:

    2 in the Smithsonian

    Farouk coin

    10 Langbord coins

    11th coin obtained by the Treasury Dept. which may or may not be the same as the one in Frankel's book

    So that's 14 or 15.

    Cal
     
  4. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    These are building a really crazy history. I'll bet more show up.
     
  5. green18

    green18 Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    I knew it........It was Trump!
     
  6. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't be surprised if our favorite Egyptian king had more than one
     
  7. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Is there a link to an article or story about this mysterious new specimen?

    And I think calling it the "11th" is deceptive. We should call it the "14th"
     
  8. imrich

    imrich Supporter! Supporter

    I'm certain from Paul Manaford for his collusion efforts with Russia. P.S. Don't tell anyone!!
     
  9. green18

    green18 Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Mum's the word.......... devil.gif
     
  10. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Guardian of The Farce, & Dead-Eye Master

    There are at least two “known to be” outside the country.
     
  11. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Guardian of The Farce, & Dead-Eye Master

    It’s only the “11th” to have changed hands lately. It was the one lowest on the turning display at Philly. It appears to be as nice as the Langbord specimens, and maybe a tick below the Smithsonian ones.
     
  12. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Guardian of The Farce, & Dead-Eye Master

    There were others nabbed in the 1940’s, too. The grand total that Switted is believed to be 20, maybe as high as 24.
     
  13. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Guardian of The Farce, & Dead-Eye Master

    Ya gotz ta Switt it n’ quit it, baby!

    The card on the new one said the previous owner turned it in because the Langbord case had proven it was stolen goods.
     
  14. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Guardian of The Farce, & Dead-Eye Master

    This year, my table got treated to a couple of bottles of Merlot, courtesy of your humble servant. Heck, my round trip travel bill was $66 and the ANA picked up my hotel tab. This year the ANA’s legal counsel, Hollie Wieland, was next to me. Two years. Two lawyers.
     
  15. Gregg

    Gregg Monster Toning Supporter

    They're keeping an eye on you.
     
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  16. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Guardian of The Farce, & Dead-Eye Master

    Okay, or is it the other way around? Hmm? Maybe I’m the only collector in the room OKAY WITH hanging out with the lawyers, ever think of THAT? At work ya' cain't swing a dead cat without takin' down a handful o' lawyers.
     
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  17. green18

    green18 Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    That's Kurt, livin' on the edge while hangin' out with lawyers. You're a braver man than I, Gunga Din...........
     
  18. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Guardian of The Farce, & Dead-Eye Master

    Having free legal advice at immediate hand is a VERY empowering thing. B'sides, Hollie is a fox. Board of Governors candidacies will be front and center at Pittsburgh in March.
     
  19. green18

    green18 Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    You devil........I can't think of March. Well to you old fellow........I'm freakin' married......[happily]
     
  20. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Guardian of The Farce, & Dead-Eye Master

    Yeah, I think she is too. I'm unfamiliar with the concept.
     
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