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<p>[QUOTE="Justin Lee, post: 4151912, member: 87404"]Nice goats!!!</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://iomegacollectionhome.files.wordpress.com/2019/08/collagemaker_20190827_223306011.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><font size="3"><b>Kasolaba, Caria</b></font></p><p><font size="3"><b>AR Hemiobol, Circa 410-390 AD</b></font></p><p><font size="3">Obverse: Head of ram right.</font></p><p><font size="3">Reverse: Young male head right, Karian letters A-SO flanking neck.</font></p><p><font size="3">References: Konuk Kasolaba 10, SNG Keckman 883-902</font></p><p><font size="3">Size: 7mm, 0.44g</font></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://iomegacollectionhome.files.wordpress.com/2019/04/collagemaker_20190413_100850734.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><font size="3"><b>Thraco Macedonian Tribes, Uncertain Tribe</b></font></p><p><font size="3"><b>AR Obol, Struck 480-460 BC</b></font></p><p><font size="3">Obverse: Male goat kneeling right on groundline.</font></p><p><font size="3">Reverse: Quadripartite incuse square.</font></p><p><font size="3">References: HPM pl III, 22 var. (incuse), SNG ANS (Macedonia) 66 (Aigai), Sheedy Non-Parian group 3</font></p><p><font size="3">Size: 9mm, 0.8g</font></p><p><font size="3">Ex: Stack’s, July 16, 1997, Lot #179</font></p><p><font size="3"><br /></font></p><p><font size="2">Notes: J. Svoronos, in HPM (pp. 34-5), set forth an argument for not assigning certain goat-type coins to Aigai in Macedon, based on the gender of the goat depicted. The canting type of goat is a play on the Greek word for goat (<i>αίξ</i>, pl. <i>αίγες</i>), and is used for mint cities whose ethnic began with the syllable <i>aig</i>. Svoronos argued that <i>αίξ</i>must refer to a female goat, as a male goat would be called <i>τράγος</i>. The foundation myths of Aigai in Justin also use the Latin form for a she-goat, <i>capra</i>. Thus, any depiction of a male goat would rule-out attributing such a coin to Aigai. This argument has been largely ignored, or unnoticed, as many still attribute all goat issues of the Macedonian region to Aigai. More recently, however, O. Picard (in “Les monnaies au bouc attribuées à Aigai” in <i>BSFN</i> 50/6 [1995]) and C. Lorber (in Lorber, <i>Goats</i>), have revived Svoronos’ theory and convincingly argue in its favor. As this coin clearly shows a male goat, its attribution cannot be to Aigai. Similarly, as the goat is not looking backward, it does not fit into the group Lorber has now attributed to the Krestones/Migdones. One other possibility is that this may be an issue of Paros, but Sheedy conclusively shows that no small fractions were struck in Paros during the archaic period. As these coins typically show up in hoards of Macedonian coinage (see, e.g., Sheedy p 112), they likely belong to an uncertain tribe in the region.</font></p><p><font size="2"><br /></font></p><p><font size="2">Similar coins:</font></p><p><a href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=243055" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=243055" rel="nofollow"><font size="2">https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=243055</font></a></p><p><a href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=139809" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=139809" rel="nofollow"><font size="2">https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=139809</font></a></p><p><a href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=152117" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=152117" rel="nofollow"><font size="2">https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=152117</font></a></p><p><a href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=135585" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=135585" rel="nofollow"><font size="2">https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=135585</font></a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Justin Lee, post: 4151912, member: 87404"]Nice goats!!! [IMG]https://iomegacollectionhome.files.wordpress.com/2019/08/collagemaker_20190827_223306011.jpg[/IMG] [SIZE=3][B]Kasolaba, Caria AR Hemiobol, Circa 410-390 AD[/B] Obverse: Head of ram right. Reverse: Young male head right, Karian letters A-SO flanking neck. References: Konuk Kasolaba 10, SNG Keckman 883-902 Size: 7mm, 0.44g[/SIZE] [IMG]https://iomegacollectionhome.files.wordpress.com/2019/04/collagemaker_20190413_100850734.jpg[/IMG] [SIZE=3][B]Thraco Macedonian Tribes, Uncertain Tribe AR Obol, Struck 480-460 BC[/B] Obverse: Male goat kneeling right on groundline. Reverse: Quadripartite incuse square. References: HPM pl III, 22 var. (incuse), SNG ANS (Macedonia) 66 (Aigai), Sheedy Non-Parian group 3 Size: 9mm, 0.8g Ex: Stack’s, July 16, 1997, Lot #179 [/SIZE] [SIZE=2]Notes: J. Svoronos, in HPM (pp. 34-5), set forth an argument for not assigning certain goat-type coins to Aigai in Macedon, based on the gender of the goat depicted. The canting type of goat is a play on the Greek word for goat ([I]αίξ[/I], pl. [I]αίγες[/I]), and is used for mint cities whose ethnic began with the syllable [I]aig[/I]. Svoronos argued that [I]αίξ[/I]must refer to a female goat, as a male goat would be called [I]τράγος[/I]. The foundation myths of Aigai in Justin also use the Latin form for a she-goat, [I]capra[/I]. Thus, any depiction of a male goat would rule-out attributing such a coin to Aigai. This argument has been largely ignored, or unnoticed, as many still attribute all goat issues of the Macedonian region to Aigai. More recently, however, O. Picard (in “Les monnaies au bouc attribuées à Aigai” in [I]BSFN[/I] 50/6 [1995]) and C. Lorber (in Lorber, [I]Goats[/I]), have revived Svoronos’ theory and convincingly argue in its favor. As this coin clearly shows a male goat, its attribution cannot be to Aigai. Similarly, as the goat is not looking backward, it does not fit into the group Lorber has now attributed to the Krestones/Migdones. One other possibility is that this may be an issue of Paros, but Sheedy conclusively shows that no small fractions were struck in Paros during the archaic period. As these coins typically show up in hoards of Macedonian coinage (see, e.g., Sheedy p 112), they likely belong to an uncertain tribe in the region. Similar coins:[/SIZE] [URL='https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=243055'][SIZE=2]https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=243055[/SIZE][/URL] [URL='https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=139809'][SIZE=2]https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=139809[/SIZE][/URL] [URL='https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=152117'][SIZE=2]https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=152117[/SIZE][/URL] [URL='https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=135585'][SIZE=2]https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=135585[/SIZE][/URL][/QUOTE]
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