That crazy goat

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  1. I just switched my avatar to this guy, Amun-Ra.


    Here is the causeway linking Luxor temple to Karnak temple in what was known as Thebes, typically the foremost nome in Egypt up through Greco-Roman times.


    There are a few coins depicting miniature Amun-headed sphinxes...from Roman times.

    My only goat so far is this Valerian II example:

    Valerian II, AR antoninianus, 23 mm 4.2 grams

    Struck: 257-258, Cologne.

    Obverse: VALERIANVS CAES, radiate, draped bust right

    Reverse: IOVI CRESCENTI, the child Jupiter sitting right on the goat Amalthea, looking left, right hand raised, left hand holding the goat's horn.

    Reference: RIC 3 (Lyons); Cohen 26 (Saloninus); Elmer 67a; Goebl 0907e; Sear 10731.



    Feel free to post any goats or rams on your coinage. And if you have an Amun example please show it!
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  3. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky Supporter

    "Feel free to post any goats or rams on your coinage." 1933 Lebanon 50 piastres...

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  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    OBVERSE: Laureate head of Zeus left
    REVERSE: Two rampant goats, monogram in lower center fiekd
    Struck at Thessalonica 187-168 BC
    6.6g, 19mm
    SNG Cop 350. Moushmov 6595
    C RENIUS.jpg
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: Helmeted head of Roma right, X behind
    REVERSE: Juno Capriotina in biga of goats right, C RENI below goats, ROMA in ex
    Struck at Rome 138 BC
    3.6g, 16mm
    Cr231/1, Syd 432
    L Pompomius Molo b.jpg
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: Laureate head of Apollo right; L POMPON MOLO around
    REVERSE: Numa Pompilius standing right before altar preparing to sacrifice a goat which is being held by a youth; NVMA POMPIL in exergue
    Struck at Rome 97 BC
    3.7g, 18mm
    Crawford 334/1; Pomponia 6
    MN. FONTEIUS CF 2.jpg
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: Laureate head of Apollo Vejovis right, M FONTEI CF behind, thunderbolt below, ROMA monogram below chin
    REVERSE: Infant winged Genius (or Cupid) infant Genius riding goat right, , caps of the Dioscuri above, filleted thyrsos below
    Struck at Rome 85 BC
    3.87g, 20mm
    Cr353/1a; Fonteia 9
    CN PLANCIVS 2.jpg
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: CN.[PLANCIVS] AED.CVR.S.C. around Diana Planciana right, wearing petasus, earring, and necklace
    REVERSE: Cretan goat right; bow and quiver behind
    Rome 55 BC
    18mm, 3.6g
    Cr 432/1
    Gallienus 17.jpg
    OBVERSE: GALLIENVS AVG, radiate head right
    REVERSE: IOVI CONS AVG, Goat standing or walking right, Digamma in ex.
    Struck at Rome, Sole Reign, 267-268 AD
    3.8g, 22mm
    RIC VI 207, right
  5. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter


    AR Obol
    OBVERSE: Goat kneeling left, head reverted, solid rosette above, pellet to left
    REVERSE: Quadripartite incuse square
    Struck at Thrace, 480-470 BC
    .79g, 11mm
    Lorber, Goats, Issue 6; AMNG III 14
    (Aigai); HPM pl. III, 16; Traité pl. XLIX, 8; SNG ANS
    Ex-NN Auction 46
    Ex: @Bing


    RR L Rustius 76 BCE AR Den 19mm 3.6g Mars SC Rome - Ram L RVSTI Cr 389-1 Sear 320

    Kebren AR Obol Archaic hd Apollo L - Hd Ram in Incuse sq 5th C BCE 7.65mm 0.64g SNG Ash 1086


    TROAS Neandria AR Obol 4thC BCE 0.56g 8mm Laur hd Apollo r - NEA N Ram stdng right within incuse sq SNG Cop 446

    Egypt Pharaoh Nektanebo II 361-343 BCE Ram Scales Weiser 1 - Butcher 11 uncertain no Syria
  6. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian Supporter

    I see what you did there.

    Aigai in Aeolis minted these minute bronzes in the 3rd century BC, with bust of Apollo and bust of goat.

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  7. pprp

    pprp Well-Known Member

    A goat from kelenderis eating some berries Kelenderis.jpg
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  8. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    Since John has a COOL goat, here is my Wolf EATING that goat... :)

    Amyntas II 395-393 BCE
    Æ12, Dichalkon 2.0g, 12h; Aigai or Pella mint.
    Obv.: Head of Pan right.
    Rev.: Forepart of wolf chewing on bone.
    Ref: Westermark, Remarks, 2; SNG Alpha Bank 179-80.
    Very Rare.
    Ex: @John Anthony
  9. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio Supporter

    bought at NYINC and sold to a friend in Houston
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  10. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing Supporter

    Nice goats!!!

    Kasolaba, Caria
    AR Hemiobol, Circa 410-390 AD

    Obverse: Head of ram right.
    Reverse: Young male head right, Karian letters A-SO flanking neck.
    References: Konuk Kasolaba 10, SNG Keckman 883-902
    Size: 7mm, 0.44g

    Thraco Macedonian Tribes, Uncertain Tribe
    AR Obol, Struck 480-460 BC

    Obverse: Male goat kneeling right on groundline.
    Reverse: Quadripartite incuse square.
    References: HPM pl III, 22 var. (incuse), SNG ANS (Macedonia) 66 (Aigai), Sheedy Non-Parian group 3
    Size: 9mm, 0.8g
    Ex: Stack’s, July 16, 1997, Lot #179

    Notes: J. Svoronos, in HPM (pp. 34-5), set forth an argument for not assigning certain goat-type coins to Aigai in Macedon, based on the gender of the goat depicted. The canting type of goat is a play on the Greek word for goat (αίξ, pl. αίγες), and is used for mint cities whose ethnic began with the syllable aig. Svoronos argued that αίξmust refer to a female goat, as a male goat would be called τράγος. The foundation myths of Aigai in Justin also use the Latin form for a she-goat, capra. Thus, any depiction of a male goat would rule-out attributing such a coin to Aigai. This argument has been largely ignored, or unnoticed, as many still attribute all goat issues of the Macedonian region to Aigai. More recently, however, O. Picard (in “Les monnaies au bouc attribuées à Aigai” in BSFN 50/6 [1995]) and C. Lorber (in Lorber, Goats), have revived Svoronos’ theory and convincingly argue in its favor. As this coin clearly shows a male goat, its attribution cannot be to Aigai. Similarly, as the goat is not looking backward, it does not fit into the group Lorber has now attributed to the Krestones/Migdones. One other possibility is that this may be an issue of Paros, but Sheedy conclusively shows that no small fractions were struck in Paros during the archaic period. As these coins typically show up in hoards of Macedonian coinage (see, e.g., Sheedy p 112), they likely belong to an uncertain tribe in the region.

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  11. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Supporter! Supporter

    My only goat on coin is this Hadrian. AA_Tridrachm_3.jpg
    Hadrian, Cilicia Aegaea, circa 117 AD. AR Tridrachm 9.6 gm, GIC 1218. Toned.
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  12. Orielensis

    Orielensis Well-Known Member

    Nice goats, everyone! I'll start looking out for a IOVI CRESCENTI reverse for Valerian II. That's a truly cool coin.

    Here is my Republican goat biga. As currently discussed in another thread, it's hard to get this type with full reverse legend and full goat horns since these denarii were typically struck on small flans. My example is a bit of a compromise: it has some horns, a mostly headless Victory, and at least most of the legend.

    Römische Republik – Denar, Renius, Ziegenbiga.png
    Roman Republic, moneyer: Gaius Renius, AR denarius, 138 BC, Rome mint. Obv: helmeted head of Roma r.; behind, X. Rev: Juno in biga of goats r., wearing diadem and holding sceptre and reins in l. hand and whip in r. hand; below, C. REN; in exergue, ROM[A]. 16mm, 3.41g. Ref: RRC 231/1.
  13. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    Here's my example of a Valerian II antoninianus with the IOVI CRESCENTI reverse. Not nearly as nice as ancient coin hunter's, but I do kind of like the obverse, as pencil-necked as the young Caesar may be:

    Valerian II Caesar, Billon Antoninianus, 257-258 AD, Cologne Mint. Obv. Radiate draped bust right, VALERIANVS CAES/ Rev. Infant Jupiter seated right on goat Amalthea walking right, looking left, with right hand raised, left hand holding goat's horn, IOVI CRESCENTI. RIC V-1 3, RSC IV 26, Sear RCV III 10731 (ill.). 22 mm., 3.70 g.

    Valerian II antoninianus - IOVI CRESCENTI reverse - jpg version.jpg

    (Seller's image.) This is the only coin I have fitting the theme, although I'm actually expecting a new goat to arrive in the mail in the next few days.
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  14. gogili1977

    gogili1977 Well-Known Member

  15. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter


    RR Fonteius 85 BC AR Den Apollo tbolt Cupid Goat Pilei Wreath Sear 271 Craw 353-1a

    RR AR Denarius 3.88g L Pomponius Molo 97 BCE Rome Apollo Numa Pompilius stdng Lituus alter sacrificing goat Cr 334-1 Syd 607


    RR Hd Juno Sospita R goat skin hddrss She-wolf R placing stick on fire eagle stndng fanning flames 45 BCE 19.0mm 4.07g Cr 472-1

    RR L Papius serratus 79 BCE Juno Sospita goat skin JUG Griffon Sear 311 Craw 384-1

    RR L Thorius Balbus 105 BCE AR Denarius Juno Sospita goat skin Bull charging Sear 192 Craw 316-1
  16. H8_modern

    H8_modern Attracted to small round-ish art

    I recently picked up one of these with some nice iridescent toning.

  17. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio Supporter

    I saw this coin while sorting through e-mail ads. It looks like a flip-over double strike. I think I see a nose above the goat. The obverse would have to be incuse.
    goat boy flip overstrike.jpg

    Mine has the Dioscuri hats above.
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