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<p>[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 6299945, member: 110504"][USER=75937]@Roman Collector[/USER], I'm going to have to watch this whole thing on YouTube, once the popcorn is made. The intro by itself is very impressive. Several notches above The History Channel, <i>that's </i>for sure!</p><p>...On what may be largely an anecdotal level, in the bigger picture, one thing strikes me about the European transition from broadly ancient to medieval times. The Germanic tribes, whether as mercenaries, clients, or conquerors, seem to have been very keen on assimilation. (Notably in contrast to the Celts, which probably contributed to the extent of their eventual cultural eradication.) Especially from the top, the Roman trappings of power, visual and verbal, were enthusiastically appropriated. And, of course, we shouldn't forget the ongoing Romanization of the left bank of the Rhine.</p><p>...There are cool markers of the process. For one, the Carolingians continued to render the Frankish name 'Louis /Ludwig' as 'HLVDOVVICVS,' retaining the Germanic initial "H" (cf. the Merovingian names beginning with "Chl-"), even as they proceeded with its Latinization --well, sort of.</p><p>On the other hand, the appropriation of Roman Imperial rhetoric by the Ottonian and Salian kings /emperors in Germany has every appearance of being as wholesale as it was intentional. After all, the word 'Kaiser' <i>retains </i>the original pronunciation of "Caesar,' even while mangling the spelling.</p><p>In aggregate, it's worth remembering that the Classical legacy was as central to the communal mindset of the Medieval world as it was to the Renaissance. ...Just differently!</p><p>...Speaking of this interval, it also contributed its own exquisite little monkey wrench to the geopolitics of the continent. The division in 840 of the Carolingian Empire into Francia, Lotharingia and Germany, west to east, left a vast swath down that same middle of the continent, to either side of the Rhine, in a state of long-term political limbo. ...Over much of this area, eventual German rule incorporated areas which were already largely Francophone, not to mention Flemish and other variations of so-called Low German, as late as the 15th century.</p><p>...Okay, time to shut up until I've seen the movie![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 6299945, member: 110504"][USER=75937]@Roman Collector[/USER], I'm going to have to watch this whole thing on YouTube, once the popcorn is made. The intro by itself is very impressive. Several notches above The History Channel, [I]that's [/I]for sure! ...On what may be largely an anecdotal level, in the bigger picture, one thing strikes me about the European transition from broadly ancient to medieval times. The Germanic tribes, whether as mercenaries, clients, or conquerors, seem to have been very keen on assimilation. (Notably in contrast to the Celts, which probably contributed to the extent of their eventual cultural eradication.) Especially from the top, the Roman trappings of power, visual and verbal, were enthusiastically appropriated. And, of course, we shouldn't forget the ongoing Romanization of the left bank of the Rhine. ...There are cool markers of the process. For one, the Carolingians continued to render the Frankish name 'Louis /Ludwig' as 'HLVDOVVICVS,' retaining the Germanic initial "H" (cf. the Merovingian names beginning with "Chl-"), even as they proceeded with its Latinization --well, sort of. On the other hand, the appropriation of Roman Imperial rhetoric by the Ottonian and Salian kings /emperors in Germany has every appearance of being as wholesale as it was intentional. After all, the word 'Kaiser' [I]retains [/I]the original pronunciation of "Caesar,' even while mangling the spelling. In aggregate, it's worth remembering that the Classical legacy was as central to the communal mindset of the Medieval world as it was to the Renaissance. ...Just differently! ...Speaking of this interval, it also contributed its own exquisite little monkey wrench to the geopolitics of the continent. The division in 840 of the Carolingian Empire into Francia, Lotharingia and Germany, west to east, left a vast swath down that same middle of the continent, to either side of the Rhine, in a state of long-term political limbo. ...Over much of this area, eventual German rule incorporated areas which were already largely Francophone, not to mention Flemish and other variations of so-called Low German, as late as the 15th century. ...Okay, time to shut up until I've seen the movie![/QUOTE]
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