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<p>[QUOTE="kevin McGonigal, post: 6297902, member: 72790"]Excellent video, much better than the average archaeological TV video, combining archaeology, history and numismatics, especially the counter stamped Varus coin which I did not know existed. As for the answer to the question posed above, there is no question about it. If decisive means a long term impact, on a large population, and a large area, over a long time, few battles have been more decisive that that of the Teutoberg Forest. Much of European history, for some 2,000 years, has been the endemic conflict between Teuton and Gaul and, had Rome succeeded in bringing Romanitas to Germania, the difference between what might have been and what has been is incalculable. Among other matters, no Germanic invasion of Britannia circa 400-500 AD and just that alone boggles the mind today. And the German language and all that has been stored and transmitted through it? The German language would be as important today as the Gallic language of Celtic Gaul, a curiosity for linguists and nothing more. Only a handful of events in history have had such importance as the Battle of the Teutoberg Forest. Now for the coins part. Here are three coins associated with battles between Roman and German. The first is a Quinarius of about 97 BC celebrating the victory of Marius over the Cimbri and Teutones with Apollo on obverse and Victory crowing a trophy, Sear 213. [ATTACH=full]1249517[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1249518[/ATTACH] The second is an As of Germanicus, mentioned in the video for having buried the Roman dead from the battle. He is on the obverse, Sear 1821. The third is an Siliqua of Valens, remembered for his own catastrophic defeat by the Germanic Goths at Adrianople in 378 AD. He never got to fulfill those 20 year vows on the reverse, Sear 4112.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="kevin McGonigal, post: 6297902, member: 72790"]Excellent video, much better than the average archaeological TV video, combining archaeology, history and numismatics, especially the counter stamped Varus coin which I did not know existed. As for the answer to the question posed above, there is no question about it. If decisive means a long term impact, on a large population, and a large area, over a long time, few battles have been more decisive that that of the Teutoberg Forest. Much of European history, for some 2,000 years, has been the endemic conflict between Teuton and Gaul and, had Rome succeeded in bringing Romanitas to Germania, the difference between what might have been and what has been is incalculable. Among other matters, no Germanic invasion of Britannia circa 400-500 AD and just that alone boggles the mind today. And the German language and all that has been stored and transmitted through it? The German language would be as important today as the Gallic language of Celtic Gaul, a curiosity for linguists and nothing more. Only a handful of events in history have had such importance as the Battle of the Teutoberg Forest. Now for the coins part. Here are three coins associated with battles between Roman and German. The first is a Quinarius of about 97 BC celebrating the victory of Marius over the Cimbri and Teutones with Apollo on obverse and Victory crowing a trophy, Sear 213. [ATTACH=full]1249517[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1249518[/ATTACH] The second is an As of Germanicus, mentioned in the video for having buried the Roman dead from the battle. He is on the obverse, Sear 1821. The third is an Siliqua of Valens, remembered for his own catastrophic defeat by the Germanic Goths at Adrianople in 378 AD. He never got to fulfill those 20 year vows on the reverse, Sear 4112.[/QUOTE]
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