Tetricus II Caesar Ant with Sacrificial Implements reverse

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  1. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    I got me this budget beauty today, a Tetricus II antoninianus from the dying days of the Gallic Empire. You got to love the ragged and raw quality of these coins. The lack of quality control, typically ragged flans, and unique Gallic style made coins from this period very interesting in my opinion. Anyway, show me your Tetricus II beauties...

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  3. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    I agree looks chewed around the edges, nice coin though.
     
  4. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    I like it. I passed on another Tetricus II with nicer edges just because I liked the ragged look which screamed "no quality control" better than the other one. I think ragged has its charms, especially on a coin that represents the collapsing Gallic Empire in its final throws.
     
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  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Funny how most of these coins are in such poor condition.
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  6. Multatuli

    Multatuli Homo numismaticus

    I have only his dad...
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    Bronze antoninianus, RIC 68 - 72 AD, 2.2g, 17.2mm, obverse IMP TETRICVS P F AVG, radiate, draped, and cuirassed bust right; reverse FIDES MILIT, Fides standing left holding two standards.
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    Bronze barbarous radiate, 2.1g, 17.0mm, unofficial mint, c. 271 - 284 A.D.; obverse blundered IMP TETRICVS AVG, radiate head right; reverse blundered legend, figure standing left.
     
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  7. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    I'd like to get a Tetricus II with implements coin... that would cross two off my list with one coin.
    This tetricus I is my most raggedy Gallic coin..

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  8. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Not bad. Heres my Tetricus I 100_6474.JPG
     
  9. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    I think Spes on these really qualify for "unique Gallic style". And let's not forget the requisite partial legends.

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  10. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    I'm on my phone so I don't have my notes handy but first up is the requested Tetricus II:

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    @Sallent yours looks to have a nice portrait and should be a nice coin.
     
  11. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

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    Tetricus II, Caesar AD 273-274
    Roman AE antoninianus, 18.2 mm, 2.73 g
    Mainz or Trier, AD 273-4
    Obv: C PIV ESV TETRICVS CAES, radiate bust right
    Rev: SPES AVGG, Spes advancing left, holding flower and lifting skirt
    Refs: RIC 270; Cohen 88; Hunter 11; RVC 11292.
     
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  12. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    Why are the flans so ragged? Were they not hot enough when struck?
    Mine isn't ragged, but it has a strange teardrop shape:
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    Bronze Antoninianus
    Gallic Empire, unidentified southern mint
    Obv: C PIV ESV TETRICVS CAES
    Rev: SPES AVG - Spes, walking left, holding flower and raising robe
    RIC 270
    20x18mm, 2.5g.
     
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  13. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    They come both round and raggedy. I think we underestimate how fast a pace was needed at the mints of the period to keep up with the demand for coins.

    Tetricus II
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    My most shaggy one is Tetricus I.
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  14. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    To add to this, it is often very difficult to determine whether a coin is official or barbarous during this period. Some are clearly official, and some appear to be obviously barbarous, but there is a HUGE grey area with the coins of the Gallic Empire, and a large percentage of them may never be ascribed as official or barbarous with any certainty.
     
  15. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    I've always liked ragged flans too. They have a charm to them.

    My run of the mill Tetricus jr.

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    Tetricus II (274 A.D.)
    Æ Antoninianus
    O: C PIV ESV TETRICVS CAES, radiate, draped bust right.
    R: SPES AVGG, Spes walking left, holding flower and raising skirt.
    2.9g
    19mm
    RIC 270
     
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  16. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    Very cool type. I got mine in 1987. And talking about quality control on mine the casting sprue is still visible.

    Tetricus I, 270 – 273 AD

    Æ Antoninianus, Uncertain Mint, 19mm, 2.67 grams
    Obverse: IMP C TETRICVS P F AVG, Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust of Tetricus right.
    Reverse: PIETAS AVGG, Pontifical implements: aspergillum, simpulum, capis, secespita and lituus.

    References:
    RIC 111 (sim, obverse legend)

    Cost:
    $0

    Provenance:
    Gift, 1987.

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  17. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Ya got a Raggedy Ann doll there with those ragged edges @Sallent

    Mine are pretty ratty too:

    TETRICUS I

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    RI Tetricus I 271-274 CE Ant LAETITIA


    TETRICUS II

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  18. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Awesome raggedy examples everyone! The OP looks like raw ore, one of Bing's and one of Doug's look almost serrate, and Multatuli's barbarous radiate is a classic.

    My Tetricus II is more oval and o/c than ragged:
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  19. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    This was a bargain basement buy a couple of years ago, I think I gave $2 for it. I had to cure it of BD though.
    Can't find a reverse photo in my files but it's a Spec reverse.
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    *edited my lousey spelling*
     
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  20. dlhill132

    dlhill132 Member

    Nice Tll,s everyone. My only one.
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  21. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Lack of quality control, yes, but sometimes a good style portrait example pops up, there are some in this thread

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    Tetricus II, Antoninianus
    C PIV [ESV TETRIC]VS CAES, Radiate and draped bust right
    COMES AVG, Comes standing left
    1.91 gr
    Ref : Cohen # 6

    And some "barbarous imitations" aren't that barbarous

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    Tetricus II, Antoninianus minted circa AD 273-274
    C PIVS ESV TETRICVS CAES, Radiate bust of Tetricus right
    [SP]ES AV[GG], Spes standing left holding her dress and a flower
    2.8 gr
    Ref : RCV #11292, Cohen #88

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