Tetradrachm Demetrios I Poliorketes possibly a fake

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by cmezner, Jan 27, 2023.

  1. cmezner

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    Be careful.

    This Tetradrachm for sale at forumancientcoins is most probably a fake:

    BNF has it as "faux moderne":

    Got this information from the German forum and it was posted by Amentia today at

    Wanted to contact Forum Ancient Coins so they could look into it, but can't figure out how to do it. Doesn't seem right to post a message on the discussion board. Has somebody info how to contact them?

    This is the tetradrachm:
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  5. robinjojo

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    Interesting. The Forum coin, at 14.36 grams has a lower weight compared to the numastikforum coin, which is clearly a modern coin, weighing a way out of standard 19.55 grams.

    The Forum coin is is pretty rough shape, typical of an ancient coin that's been around 2,000+ years.

    Is there a consensus that fake dies are being used? I seen lots of cookie cutter fake Athenian and other tetradrachms, from Bulgaria and now it seems Morocco, among other places. The Forum coin, however, doesn't see to be in this category.

    Still thinking, or at least trying to....
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  6. cmezner

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    I understand that Amentia collects fakes...Amentia doesn't say the weight of his (her) replica, which is the fourth picture; but says that the third coin is from the same dies as pictures 1+2 (forum coin).
  7. maridvnvm

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    The coin has been withdrawn from Forvm.
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    That is reassuring. Amentia has a long list of fakes & copies that is very worthwhile to check and is doing a great job. Her (his) arguments are completely logical and easy to follow.
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  10. maridvnvm

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    The link is there but the coin is withdrawn from sale and is in a category identifying it to be sent back to the consignor.

    It was withdrawn within minutes of them being informed..
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  11. cmezner

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    Nice, they are thus acknowledging that it is a fake.

    There are collectors who are interested in fakes, surely someone will buy it.:D
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