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<p>[QUOTE="The Trachy Enjoyer, post: 7621594, member: 118358"]Thanks for the book name! It looks to he very helpful</p><p><br /></p><p>As for the Nicaean (Byzantine, Sear 2155) vs Rhodian (Genoa, R12) tetarteron types, I have done some digging and perhaps discovered the distinction. Giuseppe Lunardi, the author who has noted the different types, doesn’t actually outline the difference. Upon searching for Genoan coinage in Rhodes, I didn’t have much luck. Using ACsearch, however, I looked up Rodi (Rhodes in Italian) Follaro. This brought an auction listing (<a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3961824" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3961824" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3961824</a>) which highlights type R11 as having a star inbetween the two “B”s on the obverse.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1311583[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1311582[/ATTACH]</p><p> Digging further, type R13 is similar in having a cross between the two “B”s.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1311584[/ATTACH]</p><p>Official Nicaean issues don’t place any markings here so it would appear that any sear 2155 tetartera with a star or cross in between the “B”s would in fact be a later issue of Rhodes.</p><p><br /></p><p>Giuseppe Lunardi doesnt show the marking on his obverse for type R12 (2155) but without this a distinction would be impossible to make. My coin does have some detail between the “B”s but it is difficult to make out whether this is a star or just encrustation/surface issues.</p><p><br /></p><p>I honestly suspect type R12 is the Nicaean tetarteron issues which circulated for 20-50 years (we dont know the precise minting date) until the Genoans minted their own coins. The similar designs might lead to confusion on whether this is a whole new type (R12) or a lingering issue from Nicaea (2155). It could also be that imitations were made of the popular tetarteron coinage in Rhodes which were faithful enough for us modern collectors to see as indistinguishable.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="The Trachy Enjoyer, post: 7621594, member: 118358"]Thanks for the book name! It looks to he very helpful As for the Nicaean (Byzantine, Sear 2155) vs Rhodian (Genoa, R12) tetarteron types, I have done some digging and perhaps discovered the distinction. Giuseppe Lunardi, the author who has noted the different types, doesn’t actually outline the difference. Upon searching for Genoan coinage in Rhodes, I didn’t have much luck. Using ACsearch, however, I looked up Rodi (Rhodes in Italian) Follaro. This brought an auction listing ([URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3961824[/URL]) which highlights type R11 as having a star inbetween the two “B”s on the obverse. [ATTACH=full]1311583[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1311582[/ATTACH] Digging further, type R13 is similar in having a cross between the two “B”s. [ATTACH=full]1311584[/ATTACH] Official Nicaean issues don’t place any markings here so it would appear that any sear 2155 tetartera with a star or cross in between the “B”s would in fact be a later issue of Rhodes. Giuseppe Lunardi doesnt show the marking on his obverse for type R12 (2155) but without this a distinction would be impossible to make. My coin does have some detail between the “B”s but it is difficult to make out whether this is a star or just encrustation/surface issues. I honestly suspect type R12 is the Nicaean tetarteron issues which circulated for 20-50 years (we dont know the precise minting date) until the Genoans minted their own coins. The similar designs might lead to confusion on whether this is a whole new type (R12) or a lingering issue from Nicaea (2155). It could also be that imitations were made of the popular tetarteron coinage in Rhodes which were faithful enough for us modern collectors to see as indistinguishable.[/QUOTE]
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