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<p>[QUOTE="KBBPLL, post: 26572564, member: 104064"]I don't have much experience judging "original" versus dipped coins. I will say that I don't ascribe to the notion I've seen people post, that any coin more than X years old that isn't toned is not "original." It all depends on how they were stored and their overall environment. I have silver coins in 2x2s for over 50 years, which were raw before that for another 30+ years, that I know never had anything done to them but show no toning at all. So I'd say Barbers versus Seated Dimes might have more to do with how storage methods changed over the years than a tendency for one series to have been chemically treated more than another. I'm thinking of how much coal was burned for heat and industry, sulfur content in coin envelopes, etc and how that progressed over the years. Maybe those are factors too?</p><p><br /></p><p>Where to look for residual black specks? I had not heard of this before. It seems like the places where "terminal toning" begins is also the same places where it would remain after chemical treatment. Here's an NGC AU55 from my collection. You don't need 20x to see the black stuff in the crevices. Does it mean that the coin is not original? Or is it just where that stuff starts to form anyway? I don't know. </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1693152[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>This is the only "gem" (MS65 CAC) coin I have. I would say that it's original. But I'm not sure if there's a particular "look" that is definitive. </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1693153[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I have others that it seems to me are original (could be wrong) but have a golden hue mixed with other rainbow colors, likely from album toning. But would someone say these were dipped and then retoned? How do you tell?</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1693154[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>And here's a couple proofs more along the lines of "terminal" toning I suppose. Quite dark and yet "shiny." (PR63 and PR64)</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1693156[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1693157[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>An interesting topic for sure.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="KBBPLL, post: 26572564, member: 104064"]I don't have much experience judging "original" versus dipped coins. I will say that I don't ascribe to the notion I've seen people post, that any coin more than X years old that isn't toned is not "original." It all depends on how they were stored and their overall environment. I have silver coins in 2x2s for over 50 years, which were raw before that for another 30+ years, that I know never had anything done to them but show no toning at all. So I'd say Barbers versus Seated Dimes might have more to do with how storage methods changed over the years than a tendency for one series to have been chemically treated more than another. I'm thinking of how much coal was burned for heat and industry, sulfur content in coin envelopes, etc and how that progressed over the years. Maybe those are factors too? Where to look for residual black specks? I had not heard of this before. It seems like the places where "terminal toning" begins is also the same places where it would remain after chemical treatment. Here's an NGC AU55 from my collection. You don't need 20x to see the black stuff in the crevices. Does it mean that the coin is not original? Or is it just where that stuff starts to form anyway? I don't know. [ATTACH=full]1693152[/ATTACH] This is the only "gem" (MS65 CAC) coin I have. I would say that it's original. But I'm not sure if there's a particular "look" that is definitive. [ATTACH=full]1693153[/ATTACH] I have others that it seems to me are original (could be wrong) but have a golden hue mixed with other rainbow colors, likely from album toning. But would someone say these were dipped and then retoned? How do you tell? [ATTACH=full]1693154[/ATTACH] And here's a couple proofs more along the lines of "terminal" toning I suppose. Quite dark and yet "shiny." (PR63 and PR64) [ATTACH=full]1693156[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1693157[/ATTACH] An interesting topic for sure.[/QUOTE]
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