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<p>[QUOTE="beef1020, post: 1224036, member: 24544"]Mike, I think it may be the tone because I don't see much you have written that I disagree with. My title questions why people like NGC so much, and you seem to agree, there is not much to like about them.</p><p><br /></p><p>To some of your points. NGC said they would not do anything about the 1851 N9 attributed as N36, and if you look at the diagnostics it's a bad mistake.</p><p><br /></p><p>I have learned the lesson, their grades are worthless, I rarely buy slabbed coins. I was pointing out how worthless they are, I think we are on the same page. In fact, I think they are so worthless that I crack all my coins out, even the MS ones.</p><p><br /></p><p>I put more trust in both the attribution and grading consistency that Bob does then any TPG company. It's a great comparison, he does it for free, people pay I don't even know how much to get it done by NGC/PCGS. I would not expect him to guarantee his attribution, it was not a professional opinion that you paid money for.</p><p><br /></p><p>Maybe the last part is the disagreement, but it's one of degree not substance. The TPGs, and NGC in particular with their variety attribution, are not just voicing their opinion. They are being paid to perform a service which they should stand behind, and they don't. </p><p><br /></p><p>Last thing, and it's always important to think about. The incentives for all these TPG companies is screwed up, which I think drives the general grading inflation over time. Once they have a broad base of graded coins, it's just too enticing to inflate the grade by one level. They get to regrade every coin they previously graded as people look to resubmit their coins to get the now inflated better grade. You can see this dynamic at work with the premiums that OGH still bring.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="beef1020, post: 1224036, member: 24544"]Mike, I think it may be the tone because I don't see much you have written that I disagree with. My title questions why people like NGC so much, and you seem to agree, there is not much to like about them. To some of your points. NGC said they would not do anything about the 1851 N9 attributed as N36, and if you look at the diagnostics it's a bad mistake. I have learned the lesson, their grades are worthless, I rarely buy slabbed coins. I was pointing out how worthless they are, I think we are on the same page. In fact, I think they are so worthless that I crack all my coins out, even the MS ones. I put more trust in both the attribution and grading consistency that Bob does then any TPG company. It's a great comparison, he does it for free, people pay I don't even know how much to get it done by NGC/PCGS. I would not expect him to guarantee his attribution, it was not a professional opinion that you paid money for. Maybe the last part is the disagreement, but it's one of degree not substance. The TPGs, and NGC in particular with their variety attribution, are not just voicing their opinion. They are being paid to perform a service which they should stand behind, and they don't. Last thing, and it's always important to think about. The incentives for all these TPG companies is screwed up, which I think drives the general grading inflation over time. Once they have a broad base of graded coins, it's just too enticing to inflate the grade by one level. They get to regrade every coin they previously graded as people look to resubmit their coins to get the now inflated better grade. You can see this dynamic at work with the premiums that OGH still bring.[/QUOTE]
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