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Message:: [QUOTE="WoodyWW, post: 1223659, member: 26001"]I was just thinking about TPG's before I saw your post--what a brilliant racket it is, & how NGC & PCGS have come to almost control the rare coin industry. However, any coin now over $200, or even less, I'll only buy in an NGC or PCGS slab or maybe ANACS. I just got back my first submissions to PCGS--that "collector's club" scam, er, I mean deal, they have. After I got my 8 coins back, & saw the low grades, non-grades (genuine, or bb), I felt like the proverbial "only woman on a pirate's ship", & like I'd almost wasted the almost $300 I'd spent (inc. expensive shipping both ways). I just  bought a US commem. in an NGC slab. Nice coin, I'd say well within 1 MS point of the the real grade, but probably spot on IMO. The slab looks crummy tho, the seams look poorly done, & the NGC slabs are prone to scratching. The PCGS slabs are much higher quality IMO. It's kind of nuts when people get obsessed with plastic slabs, but obviously I'm doing it too. I know the reasons, I don't want to buy a raw coin that if I submit will get a genuine (non)-grade, or bb.......PS, don't forget, you can sometimes buy undergraded coins in TPG slabs too.....[/QUOTE]