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<p>[QUOTE="beef1020, post: 1223619, member: 24544"]Just a quick rant about coin grading and NGC in particular. I don't like the grading companies, I think they basically help dealers move inventory amongst themselves by making the coins pretty much fungible assets. This is their primary benefit and I am not a dealer, so it does not help me much. Whatever, it's not a huge problem, but then I see these two coins:</p><p><br /></p><p>Anac 30:</p><p><a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5335874456&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2F1845-Large-Cent-Braided-Hair-ANACS-VF-30-%2F120741631287%3Fpt%3DCoins_US_Individual%26hash%3Ditem1c1cc31537" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5335874456&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2F1845-Large-Cent-Braided-Hair-ANACS-VF-30-%2F120741631287%3Fpt%3DCoins_US_Individual%26hash%3Ditem1c1cc31537" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/1845-Large-Cent-Braided-Hair-ANACS-VF-30-/120741631287?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item1c1cc31537</a></p><p><br /></p><p>NGC 30:</p><p><a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5335874456&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2F1845-BRAIDED-HAIR-LARGE-CENT-NGC-VF-30-BN-%2F180695370341%3Fpt%3DCoins_US_Individual%26hash%3Ditem2a12488a65" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5335874456&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2F1845-BRAIDED-HAIR-LARGE-CENT-NGC-VF-30-BN-%2F180695370341%3Fpt%3DCoins_US_Individual%26hash%3Ditem2a12488a65" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/1845-BRAIDED-HAIR-LARGE-CENT-NGC-VF-30-BN-/180695370341?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item2a12488a65</a></p><p><br /></p><p>The Anac 30 is a good solid vf30, the NGC 30 is barely passable as an F15. If the companies are this far apart in grading coins the whole notion of slabbing for fungibility goes out the window. I recently bought 4 rare large cent varieties, and every single one of them was massively overgraded by NGC, but I just thought they were market grading for the rarity. But the NGC coin linked here is not a rarity, only N7 1845 is rare and this is not an N7, it's just a vastly overgraded common variety 1845, what gives?</p><p><br /></p><p>The second issue I have with NGC in particular is they <b>do not </b>guarantee their variety attributions. I made the mistake of buying a very rare (R6) 1851 N36 in vf25 condition attributed by NGC, which I could not see before purchase. The coin turned out to be very clearly misattributed as an N9... NGC would not do a thing, fortunately the dealer took it back, but come on. Guarantee is the 'G' in NGC and you won't stand behind your variety attribution, and then you grade like in the example above.</p><p><br /></p><p>To my mind NGC has lost it's status as one of the top tier grading companies.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="beef1020, post: 1223619, member: 24544"]Just a quick rant about coin grading and NGC in particular. I don't like the grading companies, I think they basically help dealers move inventory amongst themselves by making the coins pretty much fungible assets. This is their primary benefit and I am not a dealer, so it does not help me much. Whatever, it's not a huge problem, but then I see these two coins: Anac 30: [URL="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5335874456&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2F1845-Large-Cent-Braided-Hair-ANACS-VF-30-%2F120741631287%3Fpt%3DCoins_US_Individual%26hash%3Ditem1c1cc31537"]http://cgi.ebay.com/1845-Large-Cent-Braided-Hair-ANACS-VF-30-/120741631287?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item1c1cc31537[/URL] NGC 30: [URL="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5335874456&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2F1845-BRAIDED-HAIR-LARGE-CENT-NGC-VF-30-BN-%2F180695370341%3Fpt%3DCoins_US_Individual%26hash%3Ditem2a12488a65"]http://cgi.ebay.com/1845-BRAIDED-HAIR-LARGE-CENT-NGC-VF-30-BN-/180695370341?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item2a12488a65[/URL] The Anac 30 is a good solid vf30, the NGC 30 is barely passable as an F15. If the companies are this far apart in grading coins the whole notion of slabbing for fungibility goes out the window. I recently bought 4 rare large cent varieties, and every single one of them was massively overgraded by NGC, but I just thought they were market grading for the rarity. But the NGC coin linked here is not a rarity, only N7 1845 is rare and this is not an N7, it's just a vastly overgraded common variety 1845, what gives? The second issue I have with NGC in particular is they [B]do not [/B]guarantee their variety attributions. I made the mistake of buying a very rare (R6) 1851 N36 in vf25 condition attributed by NGC, which I could not see before purchase. The coin turned out to be very clearly misattributed as an N9... NGC would not do a thing, fortunately the dealer took it back, but come on. Guarantee is the 'G' in NGC and you won't stand behind your variety attribution, and then you grade like in the example above. To my mind NGC has lost it's status as one of the top tier grading companies.[/QUOTE]
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