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<p>[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 4218968, member: 85693"]Unattributed lots bring such surprises, or things I know nothing about. Recently I got one that had two miniscule AEs that baffled me - a campgate and a Roma commemorative with the wolf-n-twins. </p><p><br /></p><p>At first I thought they were barbaric imitative issues - they were so small and crude. </p><p><br /></p><p>But after doing some digging, I found the campgate was issued by Arcadius, from the Thessalonica mint - and compared to most I found online, mine is actually one of the prettier ones. </p><p><br /></p><p>The Roma wolf is still a mystery to me - I can't make out the mint mark and it is really crude. Were these commonly this small and this crude?</p><p><br /></p><p>Here they are, with my best guesses at attribution, first with a Lincoln cent to get an idea of size:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1080199[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1080198[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Arcadius</b> <b>Æ 4 (11)</b></p><p><b>(383-388 A.D.)</b></p><p><b>Fifth Period, Officina 3 </b></p><p><b>Thessalonica Mint</b></p><p>D N ARCADI[VS P F AVG], pearl-diademed, draped bust r. / GLORIA [REPVBLIC]E, camp gate, Γ to left, TES in exergue.</p><p>RIC IX 62c / 3 (S). </p><p>(1.14 grams / 11 mm)</p><p> </p><p><b>City Commemorative</b> <b>Æ 11</b></p><p><b>(330-333 A.D.)</b></p><p><b>Siscia Mint (?)</b></p><p>[VRBS R]OM[A], helmeted, cuirassed bust of Roma left / she-wolf left, suckling Romulus and Remus, two stars above, [?]SIS (?) in exergue.</p><p>RIC VII Siscia 222 or barbaric imitative. Attribution uncertain.</p><p>(0.83 grams / 11 mm)</p><p><br /></p><p>The lot also included an Aurelian ORIENS that is causing me attribution problems as well - the notes below outlines my problems:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1080204[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Aurelian Æ Antoninianus</b></p><p><b>(270-275 A.D.) </b></p><p><b>Rome Mint?</b></p><p>AVRELIANVS AVG, radiate, cuirassed bust rt. / ORIENS AVG, Sol walking left, holding</p><p>globe and raising right hand, foot on one of two bound captives, S (retrograde Z?) XXI in ex. </p><p>RIC V 62 ? (see note).</p><p>(3.99 grams / 21 mm)</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Attribution Note: </b></p><p> </p><p>RIC 62 (Rome Mint) has many varieties of exergual marks, but not <b>S</b>XXI. Could this S</p><p>be a retrograde Z? <b>Z</b>XXI is a listed type. </p><p><br /></p><p>Ticinum mint has similar mark but has "C" in obverse legend; see RIC 154. </p><p> </p><p>Corrections, speculation, guesses always welcome. Show your...teensy weensy LRB? New-to-you stuff? Aurelian oddities? FDC '51D Lincoln cents?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 4218968, member: 85693"]Unattributed lots bring such surprises, or things I know nothing about. Recently I got one that had two miniscule AEs that baffled me - a campgate and a Roma commemorative with the wolf-n-twins. At first I thought they were barbaric imitative issues - they were so small and crude. But after doing some digging, I found the campgate was issued by Arcadius, from the Thessalonica mint - and compared to most I found online, mine is actually one of the prettier ones. The Roma wolf is still a mystery to me - I can't make out the mint mark and it is really crude. Were these commonly this small and this crude? Here they are, with my best guesses at attribution, first with a Lincoln cent to get an idea of size: [ATTACH=full]1080199[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1080198[/ATTACH] [B]Arcadius[/B] [B]Æ 4 (11) (383-388 A.D.) Fifth Period, Officina 3 Thessalonica Mint[/B] D N ARCADI[VS P F AVG], pearl-diademed, draped bust r. / GLORIA [REPVBLIC]E, camp gate, Γ to left, TES in exergue. RIC IX 62c / 3 (S). (1.14 grams / 11 mm) [B]City Commemorative[/B] [B]Æ 11 (330-333 A.D.) Siscia Mint (?)[/B] [VRBS R]OM[A], helmeted, cuirassed bust of Roma left / she-wolf left, suckling Romulus and Remus, two stars above, [?]SIS (?) in exergue. RIC VII Siscia 222 or barbaric imitative. Attribution uncertain. (0.83 grams / 11 mm) The lot also included an Aurelian ORIENS that is causing me attribution problems as well - the notes below outlines my problems: [ATTACH=full]1080204[/ATTACH] [B]Aurelian Æ Antoninianus (270-275 A.D.) Rome Mint?[/B] AVRELIANVS AVG, radiate, cuirassed bust rt. / ORIENS AVG, Sol walking left, holding globe and raising right hand, foot on one of two bound captives, S (retrograde Z?) XXI in ex. RIC V 62 ? (see note). (3.99 grams / 21 mm) [B]Attribution Note: [/B] RIC 62 (Rome Mint) has many varieties of exergual marks, but not [B]S[/B]XXI. Could this S be a retrograde Z? [B]Z[/B]XXI is a listed type. Ticinum mint has similar mark but has "C" in obverse legend; see RIC 154. Corrections, speculation, guesses always welcome. Show your...teensy weensy LRB? New-to-you stuff? Aurelian oddities? FDC '51D Lincoln cents?[/QUOTE]
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