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<p>[QUOTE="Kirkuleez, post: 1444652, member: 36864"]<img src="http://www.cointalk.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> Originally Posted by <b>NGC Interview</b> </p><p> MR: I agree, there’s been a learning curve at work. I believe that the early years of NGC and PCGS saw conservative grading because they were young companies out to prove themselves, get market share, introducing a new concept. You yielded a lot of power and had to be careful, earn your “oats,” so to speak. Does this make sense?</p><p> </p><p> <b>MS: Initially we were very conservative, but again you have to consider the pricing level at the time. For example, the Greysheet price for a so-called MS 65 Barber Quarter was about $3,000, way over what a realistic MS 65 was trading at in the marketplace, about $1,500. So the coin that we graded MS 65 was probably a 66 or 67 to equate to the coin that was necessary to fulfill the $3,000 price. We were grading based on value as well.</b></p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000">Don't you really think that said it all? </span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000">Personally, I could care less what grade is on the slab, I very seldom sell a coin. Usually, when I buy a coin in a slab, I chose it because I thought it was a nice coin for the grade. Then I crack it out and put it in a Dansco or Intercept Shield album or in Capital plastics holders (A throwback to my grandfathers collection). The reason I care at all is that if I want to upgrade a coin, I have to resubmit it to get fair value for the coin. In my experience, the average grade upon resubmission goes up by a point. </span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000">Lehigh, I am not surprised at all that I couldn't tell which generation slab held those Morgans. As I said previously, you can make an argument that coins in every generation TPG slabs have over and undergraded coins. If anyone would argue with that, I would be shocked. I do stand by the assessment that I put on the coins based on what I saw in the photos. </span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"> It is impossible for TPGs, myself, Doug or anybody else to always agree on grades. The subjectivity of grading is what it is. I just don't need a TPG to decide that a coin has nice luster and add a point. Or a coin has nice colors so add a point. I have my own eyes for that. Just determine if it is an original, unaltered coin, and I can do the rest. </span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000">And I'm home from work now so....Bring it! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Kirkuleez, post: 1444652, member: 36864"][IMG]http://www.cointalk.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png[/IMG] Originally Posted by [B]NGC Interview[/B] MR: I agree, there’s been a learning curve at work. I believe that the early years of NGC and PCGS saw conservative grading because they were young companies out to prove themselves, get market share, introducing a new concept. You yielded a lot of power and had to be careful, earn your “oats,” so to speak. Does this make sense? [B]MS: Initially we were very conservative, but again you have to consider the pricing level at the time. For example, the Greysheet price for a so-called MS 65 Barber Quarter was about $3,000, way over what a realistic MS 65 was trading at in the marketplace, about $1,500. So the coin that we graded MS 65 was probably a 66 or 67 to equate to the coin that was necessary to fulfill the $3,000 price. We were grading based on value as well.[/B] [LEFT][COLOR=#000000] Don't you really think that said it all? Personally, I could care less what grade is on the slab, I very seldom sell a coin. Usually, when I buy a coin in a slab, I chose it because I thought it was a nice coin for the grade. Then I crack it out and put it in a Dansco or Intercept Shield album or in Capital plastics holders (A throwback to my grandfathers collection). The reason I care at all is that if I want to upgrade a coin, I have to resubmit it to get fair value for the coin. In my experience, the average grade upon resubmission goes up by a point. Lehigh, I am not surprised at all that I couldn't tell which generation slab held those Morgans. As I said previously, you can make an argument that coins in every generation TPG slabs have over and undergraded coins. If anyone would argue with that, I would be shocked. I do stand by the assessment that I put on the coins based on what I saw in the photos. It is impossible for TPGs, myself, Doug or anybody else to always agree on grades. The subjectivity of grading is what it is. I just don't need a TPG to decide that a coin has nice luster and add a point. Or a coin has nice colors so add a point. I have my own eyes for that. Just determine if it is an original, unaltered coin, and I can do the rest. And I'm home from work now so....Bring it! :) [/COLOR][/LEFT][/QUOTE]
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