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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1444325, member: 112"]Please show me where I said anything at all like that Paul. Yes, the coins are most definitely the evidence. The coins are precisely the evidence that made me first notice the changes in grading standards taking place. </p><p><br /></p><p>What was saying Paul is that by using 5 examples, or 10, or 100, neither you nor I can prove anything. We can't even indicate anything with that few examples. I am saying that if you look at a forest of trees, and can see a group of 100 pine trees and nothing but those 100, you cannot then say or even think that the entire forest is composed of pine trees. </p><p><br /></p><p>I am saying that looking at all coins overall, thousands and thousands of them, graded before a certain date. And then looking at all coins overall, thousands and thousands of them, graded after that date, that you can see a definite change in the grading standards.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Paul, don't you find it odd that those 2 paragraphs of yours directly contradict each other ? In the one you say - </p><p><br /></p><p>"It is not the result of a deliberate change (loosening) of grading standards"</p><p><br /></p><p>And then in the next you say - </p><p><br /></p><p>"The truth is that there has been an evolution and maturation of the grading process and those early graded coins were improperly undergraded and now we have reached the point where coins are graded properly."</p><p><br /></p><p>How can those, what you call, undergraded coins be properly graded now unless the grading standards were intentionally loosened ? If a 63 becomes a 65, or a 65 becomes a 67 - what else do you call that other than an intentional loosening of the grading standards ?</p><p><br /></p><p>And like Mike, did you completely miss where Slazburg said - "NGC doesn't price coins " ?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1444325, member: 112"]Please show me where I said anything at all like that Paul. Yes, the coins are most definitely the evidence. The coins are precisely the evidence that made me first notice the changes in grading standards taking place. What was saying Paul is that by using 5 examples, or 10, or 100, neither you nor I can prove anything. We can't even indicate anything with that few examples. I am saying that if you look at a forest of trees, and can see a group of 100 pine trees and nothing but those 100, you cannot then say or even think that the entire forest is composed of pine trees. I am saying that looking at all coins overall, thousands and thousands of them, graded before a certain date. And then looking at all coins overall, thousands and thousands of them, graded after that date, that you can see a definite change in the grading standards. Paul, don't you find it odd that those 2 paragraphs of yours directly contradict each other ? In the one you say - "It is not the result of a deliberate change (loosening) of grading standards" And then in the next you say - "The truth is that there has been an evolution and maturation of the grading process and those early graded coins were improperly undergraded and now we have reached the point where coins are graded properly." How can those, what you call, undergraded coins be properly graded now unless the grading standards were intentionally loosened ? If a 63 becomes a 65, or a 65 becomes a 67 - what else do you call that other than an intentional loosening of the grading standards ? And like Mike, did you completely miss where Slazburg said - "NGC doesn't price coins " ?[/QUOTE]
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