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<p>[QUOTE="Troodon, post: 361156, member: 4626"]I'm not a CPA, yet, but I am a senior college student studying accounting... so can give you a somewhat qualified opinion (however I still suggest you consult a CPA for the particulars; I'm reasonably confident I'm correct but I take no reasosibility for any trouble you have with the IRS should you act on my advice and it turn out to be wrong!)</p><p><br /></p><p>You only need to pay self-employment tax if you are in fact, self-employed. May sound obvious... but what that means is you have to have some sort of registered business or be a self-employed contracter to be considered self-employed. Any income you make from self-employment, less expenses, is subject to both normal taxes at your marginal rate and self-employment tax (basically, you're paying the social security taxes that an employer would have paid half of, were you employed by someone else). There is a threshold for this... if your self-employment income times 0.9235 equals less than $400, you don't have to pay any SE tax on it (though it's still subject to normal income tax at your marginal rate).</p><p><br /></p><p>If you're not really self-employed... if the income you earn is really just from a hobby, it's miscillaneous hobby income. It's taxed at your marginal rate, but not subject to SE tax.</p><p><br /></p><p>Usually the dividing line between a hobby that happens to produce income and self-employment has to do with the relative volume of income it produces in proportion to your total income. Check with a CPA to figure out whether your earn enough income from it to be considered self-employment or not.</p><p><br /></p><p>Other difference between a hobby or a business, is a business can claim a net loss (for up to 7 consecutive years; past that point it's reasonable to expect you'll close up shop rather than contimue to operate an unprofitable business, therefore the IRS quits letting you claim a loss for that business past that point). You can deduct hobby expenses from hobby income, but at best you can only break even; even if your hobby expenses exceed your hobby income, you can not claim a net hobby loss.</p><p><br /></p><p>There may be certain times where the sale of a coin for a profit can be considered a capital gain (or a loss, if sold at a loss). It depends on the nature of the sale and the item... again check with a CPA on this if you have any questions about it...</p><p><br /></p><p>It's also theoretically possible, if you use the profit from coin sales just to buy more coins, that it can be considered a like-kind exchange, allowing you to defer the realization (and thus the tax) on the gain.</p><p><br /></p><p>If the gains you make are relatively insignificant the IRS may just consider ot below the level of administrative convenience (like when they don't bother to tax free coffee your employer provides as income).</p><p><br /></p><p>If I havent' said it enough, if you have enough income from coin sales to be reasonably concerned about the tax consequences, consult a CPA (especially one that specializes in taxes) before you file your tax return. This info is a guideline only and what you're required to claim on your taxes can differ greatly depending on your individual situation.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Troodon, post: 361156, member: 4626"]I'm not a CPA, yet, but I am a senior college student studying accounting... so can give you a somewhat qualified opinion (however I still suggest you consult a CPA for the particulars; I'm reasonably confident I'm correct but I take no reasosibility for any trouble you have with the IRS should you act on my advice and it turn out to be wrong!) You only need to pay self-employment tax if you are in fact, self-employed. May sound obvious... but what that means is you have to have some sort of registered business or be a self-employed contracter to be considered self-employed. Any income you make from self-employment, less expenses, is subject to both normal taxes at your marginal rate and self-employment tax (basically, you're paying the social security taxes that an employer would have paid half of, were you employed by someone else). There is a threshold for this... if your self-employment income times 0.9235 equals less than $400, you don't have to pay any SE tax on it (though it's still subject to normal income tax at your marginal rate). If you're not really self-employed... if the income you earn is really just from a hobby, it's miscillaneous hobby income. It's taxed at your marginal rate, but not subject to SE tax. Usually the dividing line between a hobby that happens to produce income and self-employment has to do with the relative volume of income it produces in proportion to your total income. Check with a CPA to figure out whether your earn enough income from it to be considered self-employment or not. Other difference between a hobby or a business, is a business can claim a net loss (for up to 7 consecutive years; past that point it's reasonable to expect you'll close up shop rather than contimue to operate an unprofitable business, therefore the IRS quits letting you claim a loss for that business past that point). You can deduct hobby expenses from hobby income, but at best you can only break even; even if your hobby expenses exceed your hobby income, you can not claim a net hobby loss. There may be certain times where the sale of a coin for a profit can be considered a capital gain (or a loss, if sold at a loss). It depends on the nature of the sale and the item... again check with a CPA on this if you have any questions about it... It's also theoretically possible, if you use the profit from coin sales just to buy more coins, that it can be considered a like-kind exchange, allowing you to defer the realization (and thus the tax) on the gain. If the gains you make are relatively insignificant the IRS may just consider ot below the level of administrative convenience (like when they don't bother to tax free coffee your employer provides as income). If I havent' said it enough, if you have enough income from coin sales to be reasonably concerned about the tax consequences, consult a CPA (especially one that specializes in taxes) before you file your tax return. This info is a guideline only and what you're required to claim on your taxes can differ greatly depending on your individual situation.[/QUOTE]
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