Log in or Sign up
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
Coin Chat
>
Tax The Poor Coin Collectors
>
Reply to Thread
Message:
<p>[QUOTE="Troodon, post: 459510, member: 4626"]I think you summed it up correctly... by California's logic if a coin is more than $1000 it is viewed as a capital investment. Presumably if such a coin is sold at a profit down the road, you'd pay capital gains tax on it (of which California gets a cut of by virtue of your California taxable income being based on your federal taxable income).</p><p><br /></p><p>But if it's less than $1000, they presume it to be a hobby purchase that you're going to keep probably indefinitely, so they need to get their cut now by means of collecting sales tax on it. (Unless you have proof that you're in the business of selling coins and have a resale license, in which case you're exempt.)</p><p><br /></p><p>Of course the reverse could easily be true if you buy a $1000+ coin to keep indefinitely as part of your personal collection, or buy a less than $1000 with the intent of selling it at a profit, but this appears to be California's policy. Keep in mind this kind of thing varies from state to state. (Some states and jurisdictions don't tax coins at all, some it's taxable no matter what, and many positions in between.)</p><p><br /></p><p>Theoretically every time you sell a coin at a profit it should be considered a capital gain... but materiality can come into play, as well as justification of it being a like kind exchange, that sometimes the IRS doesn't expect a cut (especially if the potential gain is small compared to your total income and you're doing this basically as a hobby.) If you're in the business of selling coins at a profit, that's a whole different story of course.</p><p><br /></p><p>DISCLAIMER: Please keep in mind that the above should not be construed as professional tax advice... if you have any questions regarding tax implications consult a tax accountant and/or a lawyer.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Troodon, post: 459510, member: 4626"]I think you summed it up correctly... by California's logic if a coin is more than $1000 it is viewed as a capital investment. Presumably if such a coin is sold at a profit down the road, you'd pay capital gains tax on it (of which California gets a cut of by virtue of your California taxable income being based on your federal taxable income). But if it's less than $1000, they presume it to be a hobby purchase that you're going to keep probably indefinitely, so they need to get their cut now by means of collecting sales tax on it. (Unless you have proof that you're in the business of selling coins and have a resale license, in which case you're exempt.) Of course the reverse could easily be true if you buy a $1000+ coin to keep indefinitely as part of your personal collection, or buy a less than $1000 with the intent of selling it at a profit, but this appears to be California's policy. Keep in mind this kind of thing varies from state to state. (Some states and jurisdictions don't tax coins at all, some it's taxable no matter what, and many positions in between.) Theoretically every time you sell a coin at a profit it should be considered a capital gain... but materiality can come into play, as well as justification of it being a like kind exchange, that sometimes the IRS doesn't expect a cut (especially if the potential gain is small compared to your total income and you're doing this basically as a hobby.) If you're in the business of selling coins at a profit, that's a whole different story of course. DISCLAIMER: Please keep in mind that the above should not be construed as professional tax advice... if you have any questions regarding tax implications consult a tax accountant and/or a lawyer.[/QUOTE]
Your name or email address:
Do you already have an account?
No, create an account now.
Yes, my password is:
Forgot your password?
Stay logged in
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
Coin Chat
>
Tax The Poor Coin Collectors
>
Home
Home
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Activity
Recent Posts
Forums
Forums
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Posts
Competitions
Competitions
Quick Links
Competition Index
Rules, Terms & Conditions
Gallery
Gallery
Quick Links
Search Media
New Media
Showcase
Showcase
Quick Links
Search Items
Most Active Members
New Items
Directory
Directory
Quick Links
Directory Home
New Listings
Members
Members
Quick Links
Notable Members
Current Visitors
Recent Activity
New Profile Posts
Sponsors
Menu
Search
Search titles only
Posted by Member:
Separate names with a comma.
Newer Than:
Search this thread only
Search this forum only
Display results as threads
Useful Searches
Recent Posts
More...