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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;seth77, post: 2625887, member: 56653&quot;]Where these minted at Messina AND Palermo? </p><p>I&#039;m asking because between autumn 1190 and early spring 1191 Messina couldn&#039;t have minted anything as it was used as base for Philip&#039;s and Richard&#039;s armies on their way towards the Holy Land, after being conquered and sacked after animosity between Tancred and the crusader forces had reached a climax by October 1190. By the time Tancred agreed to Richard&#039;s terms it was already March 1191. </p><p>These issues also seem earlier rather than later, keeping with the William II tradition.</p><p>So if Messina, maybe before mid-late 1190?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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