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Message:: [QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 8296596, member: 110504"]Many thanks, [USER=42773]@John Anthony[/USER].  Among French ecclesiastical issues, the better known one, with another hand, is of Besancon, but it's anonymous, issued 'in the name of' St. Stephen.  Right, immobilized at least into the 13th century.But, Hang on, for the historical context, this is the best thing I've ever found.  (My copy was from a library book sale; best of luck not paying stupid money for it.)<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Arabia-Arabs-Bronze-Peoples-Ancient/dp/0415195357/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2ZWA7LJ1GY8CK&keywords=hoyland+arabia+and+the+arabs&qid=1649715669&s=books&sprefix=hoyland+arabia+and+the+arabs%2Cstripbooks%2C175&sr=1-1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.amazon.com/Arabia-Arabs-Bronze-Peoples-Ancient/dp/0415195357/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2ZWA7LJ1GY8CK&keywords=hoyland+arabia+and+the+arabs&qid=1649715669&s=books&sprefix=hoyland+arabia+and+the+arabs%2Cstripbooks%2C175&sr=1-1" rel="nofollow">https://www.amazon.com/Arabia-Arabs-Bronze-Peoples-Ancient/dp/0415195357/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2ZWA7LJ1GY8CK&keywords=hoyland+arabia+and+the+arabs&qid=1649715669&s=books&sprefix=hoyland+arabia+and+the+arabs,stripbooks,175&sr=1-1</a>[/QUOTE]