Talk about inflation.

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Detecto92, Feb 14, 2014.

  1. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    I ran across a bunch of mexican coins I had in a jar in my closet.

    I thought I had something since these coins said N$1, N$2, N$5, etc.

    Come to find out, it takes over 13 N$1's to make just one dollar.

    I had 27 of these N$ coins and they are worth....a whole two dollars.
     
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  3. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I read this page the other day...

    http://www.fleur-de-coin.com/articles/worthless-money

    An example of currencies that were devalued, Zimbabwe offering up the most dramatic example in recent years. Not to make things political, but whenever The State gets involved in economic planning, economies always suffer. That isn't an opinion - it's a demonstrable fact with examples going back to ancient times. Government management over free markets = devalued currency.
     
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  4. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    It seems a lot of countries have reformated or demonetized their coins.

    It's kinda cool US coins have been minted for over 200 years are and never underwent such things.
     
  5. dsmith23

    dsmith23 Gotta get 'em all

  6. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    That's not exactly true. We haven't suffered devaluation the likes of Zimbabwe, but one form of devaluation is debasement, and we've seen plenty of that in the 20th-century.
     
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  7. vlaha

    vlaha Respect. The. Hat.

    We had to reduce the sizes of our coins in the mid-19th century too.
     
  8. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    Like it or not, all coins including US coins have gone through inflation and value wise and lost their value over the years. This can be seen by metal composition where mints attempt to reduce their production by using cheaper, inferior metals or reducing the amount of metal in it by making it smaller or alloying with cheaper metal. There are less common instances where mints attempt to increase the value of the coins by putting in precious metals, i.e. Mexico with silver coins but to little avail as such coins get removed from the system very quickly.
     
  9. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    U.S Trade dollar was de-monetized.
     
  10. mlov43

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    Okay. I guess South Korea should never have had government-directed "five-year plans" in the 1960s and 1970s then?

    If they hadn't, they'd still be where Zimbabwe is now (selling light textiles and wigs to the USA, as envisioned by the 'free-market' thinkers from THAT country) instead of the world's 11th largest economy for a country half the size of the state of Minnesota with NO natural resources and so soon after a devastating civil war. ...And heavy, chemical and high-tech industry to boot.

    The problem with the market is that IT HAS NO BRAIN.

    A devalued currency. Okay, but to what END?
     
  11. vlaha

    vlaha Respect. The. Hat.

    There are exceptions to every rule. For example, in the 1970s the US experienced double digit inflation and interest rates that kept up with inflation, which before then had been thought to be not possible.
     
  12. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title] Supporter

    But, debasement to a certain extent is part of a healthy economy too (not saying that ours is right now). A certain amount of inflation is healthy and over a long period of time that will lead to debasement. After a long enough time, the smallest denomination may even become obsolete (like the half cent did).
     
  13. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    How can loss be healthy?
     
  14. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    I think, technically, the trade dollar was unintentionally monetized, demonetized, then remonetized. Tim's statement is true in principal. The Trade Dollar was never intended to be used in commerce in the US. When they were repatriated into the economy, they got demonetized so businesses wouldn't have to accept them. They got remonetized with that bill in the 60s.

    Also, inflation can be healthy, since it allows for distribution of wealth.
     
  15. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    "Distribution of wealth."

    At the expense of savers.
     
  16. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    I don't think it's ever healthy for the public but the government gets what they want and they got all the guns and tanks. :D
     
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  17. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Well, that is where a currency converter comes in quite handy ...

    By the way, your "new peso" coins must be relatively old. ;) That Nuevo Peso (N$) was introduced more than 20 years ago. In 1996 they removed the word "new", and since then it has been the peso ("$" on coins) again.

    Christian
     
  18. Pere

    Pere Active Member

    We're a couple denominations behind right now in adjusting to this.
     
  19. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title] Supporter

    If there is no inflation in an economy, it is not a healthy economy. Inflation is an indicator of economic growth which is definitely desirable as it allows the economy to expand it's production possibilities. If there is no inflation, there is no growth and the economy is stunted. We control inflation by fiscal (taxes and government spending) and monetary (interest rates) as we have set guidelines of how much inflation is healthy for the economy.

    Many economists believe that a healthy economy should see between 1-5% inflation.
     
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  20. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title] Supporter

    Yeah, I agree.
     
  21. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    CamaroDMD Your correct that inflation is an indicator of economic growth. That's exactly what it is meant to do-trick business into expanding capacity or risk "falling behind." But the growth isn't real which is why inflation is subtracted from nominal GDP to arrive at real GDP. All that's happening is special effects via Doctor John Maynard Keynestein hooking a car battery to a corpse to induce twitching.
     
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