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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;jpikston, post: 500827, member: 16794&quot;]Once again-Your argument only holds true if a counterfiter were to create a horrible, terrible die which would be making terrible counterfits. Great fakes have never been detected so they will never be documented! A die is a metal alloy of defined dimention and tolerances. Nothing more or less. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&quot;Suppose the host coin has a hit in the field and counterfeit dies were made by precisely copying the host coin.&quot;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Once again-this would be a very sub par effort at counterfiting a 90/10 silver dollar-Why would you asume anyone would copy a host coin--they would just create a new die from scratch. A &quot;perfect&quot; die or &quot;MS-70&quot; die as defined by what physical tollerances are called out for on the print.</p><p>These new (fake) dies could be produced at .002&quot;, .001&quot;, or even .0002, or .0001&quot; tolerances.</p><p>Then they would be pollished with 10 micron, then 5 micron, then 2 micron diamond paste etc.</p><p>Look, In 1878 dies were created to press coins by hand. Today we have computers, CNC, tungston crabide and diamond cutting tools, the EDM machine, </p><p>ect. Here in this part of the world there are THOUSANDS of people that have this level of tooling in their garages and basement shops.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>People that think they have it all figured out are the easiest to scam. Now that you have it all figured out you clearly have nothing left to learn about metallurgy or die making. You have probobly created hundreds of dies from tool steel in your career.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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