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<p>[QUOTE="jpikston, post: 500588, member: 16794"]I like to collect the GSA dollars-I'll tell you one reason why.</p><p>It would be more dificult to counterfit the packaging than counterfiting the coin to most machinists. EDM machine for the die and a press.....cheap. Here in mid- Michigan I have seen EDM's and presses more than capable of making a coin indistinguishable from an original article scrapped (thrown out) many times.</p><p>I don't care about magnification, experience bla, bla, bla. I read a comment once that said something like "if that 1878 whatever coin doesn't have that die crack then it certainly is a fake since all the coins minted in that year used the same die."</p><p>I laughed my <span style="color: Red">edited</span> off. The change in the coin from the polish marks on the die and the small die crack are huge by todays manufacturing standards. Adding those features to a die would be easy for any one of about about 2000 out of work or starving machinists here in greater Detroit.</p><p>These counterfits that you see evaluated on this board or detected by NGC or PCGS are horrible terrible fakes. Anything (counterfit) better than a 5 out of 10 will never be detected.</p><p>I don't care if you have an electron microscope, a mass spectrometer, and 40 years experience its not enough because creating an exact duplicate is just to easy with 4K worth or gear and a blank. </p><p> </p><p>I guess I should elaborate on "easy."</p><p> </p><p>Have you ever taken a towel out of the dryer and folded it over twice so that it was a smaller square?</p><p>That's how easy.</p><p>People that collect coins should realize this.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="jpikston, post: 500588, member: 16794"]I like to collect the GSA dollars-I'll tell you one reason why. It would be more dificult to counterfit the packaging than counterfiting the coin to most machinists. EDM machine for the die and a press.....cheap. Here in mid- Michigan I have seen EDM's and presses more than capable of making a coin indistinguishable from an original article scrapped (thrown out) many times. I don't care about magnification, experience bla, bla, bla. I read a comment once that said something like "if that 1878 whatever coin doesn't have that die crack then it certainly is a fake since all the coins minted in that year used the same die." I laughed my [COLOR="Red"]edited[/COLOR] off. The change in the coin from the polish marks on the die and the small die crack are huge by todays manufacturing standards. Adding those features to a die would be easy for any one of about about 2000 out of work or starving machinists here in greater Detroit. These counterfits that you see evaluated on this board or detected by NGC or PCGS are horrible terrible fakes. Anything (counterfit) better than a 5 out of 10 will never be detected. I don't care if you have an electron microscope, a mass spectrometer, and 40 years experience its not enough because creating an exact duplicate is just to easy with 4K worth or gear and a blank. I guess I should elaborate on "easy." Have you ever taken a towel out of the dryer and folded it over twice so that it was a smaller square? That's how easy. People that collect coins should realize this.[/QUOTE]
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