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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 7438917, member: 19463"]Does it bother none of our experts that the above two quoted posts conflict? I suppose this is a problem with coins 'not in great condition' but the mintmark IA, as explained correctly has nothing to do with a TR city abbreviation. I have always wanted one of these to go with my XI double. I guess we all hope for coins that are easy to read if not mint state. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>My first thought reading the above is that this is the type thinking that is destroying the hobby. Real or fake? That makes ALL the difference. I would like to know if the price really was low enough that it was OK either way. Perhaps someday these modern fakes will be a part of our numismatic history but I hate to see them in the hands of collectors who do not care which it is as long as the price is right. The coin belongs in a "Black Museum" where it is recognized for what it is. What is a fair price for a known fake for study purposes? The number is higher when the fake coin has age and provenance like we see with Cavino's and Becker's. The early Bulgarian school fakes (whose makers are still cranking out their wares) and nearing 50 years old (is this about right or is it much less?) and not yet collectible in their own right IMO. I paid $4 for my first group of Slavei's and see them being sold for as much as $20 now when identified as what they are. They are not in the least deceptive to anyone who has handled the originals. What is the current state of our hobby "fake" subspecialty?</p><p><br /></p><p>To make this reply 'legal', I show a slightly different Tacitus from Serdica which includes INVICTVS in the obverse legend.</p><p><font size="5">RIC temp #3956 specimen #4 (I am proud to have the worst known specimen.)</font></p><p><font size="4"><a href="https://ric.mom.fr/en/coin/3956?tempRIC=&asmSelect0=&Reign=Tacitus&asmSelect1=&asmSelect2=&asmSelect3=&asmSelect4=&asmSelect5=&asmSelect6=&Titulature=IMP+C+M+CL+TACITVS+INVICTVS+AVG&Titulature=IMP+C+TACITVS+INVICTVS+AVG&asmSelect7=&asmSelect8=&asmSelect9=&asmSelect10=&asmSelect11=&BustDescription=&ReverseDescription=&Note=&Reference=&page=2&mod=result&hpp=5&from=advanced" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://ric.mom.fr/en/coin/3956?tempRIC=&asmSelect0=&Reign=Tacitus&asmSelect1=&asmSelect2=&asmSelect3=&asmSelect4=&asmSelect5=&asmSelect6=&Titulature=IMP+C+M+CL+TACITVS+INVICTVS+AVG&Titulature=IMP+C+TACITVS+INVICTVS+AVG&asmSelect7=&asmSelect8=&asmSelect9=&asmSelect10=&asmSelect11=&BustDescription=&ReverseDescription=&Note=&Reference=&page=2&mod=result&hpp=5&from=advanced" rel="nofollow">https://ric.mom.fr/en/coin/3956?tempRIC=&asmSelect0=&Reign=Tacitus&asmSelect1=&asmSelect2=&asmSelect3=&asmSelect4=&asmSelect5=&asmSelect6=&Titulature=IMP+C+M+CL+TACITVS+INVICTVS+AVG&Titulature=IMP+C+TACITVS+INVICTVS+AVG&asmSelect7=&asmSelect8=&asmSelect9=&asmSelect10=&asmSelect11=&BustDescription=&ReverseDescription=&Note=&Reference=&page=2&mod=result&hpp=5&from=advanced</a></font></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1290798[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 7438917, member: 19463"]Does it bother none of our experts that the above two quoted posts conflict? I suppose this is a problem with coins 'not in great condition' but the mintmark IA, as explained correctly has nothing to do with a TR city abbreviation. I have always wanted one of these to go with my XI double. I guess we all hope for coins that are easy to read if not mint state. My first thought reading the above is that this is the type thinking that is destroying the hobby. Real or fake? That makes ALL the difference. I would like to know if the price really was low enough that it was OK either way. Perhaps someday these modern fakes will be a part of our numismatic history but I hate to see them in the hands of collectors who do not care which it is as long as the price is right. The coin belongs in a "Black Museum" where it is recognized for what it is. What is a fair price for a known fake for study purposes? The number is higher when the fake coin has age and provenance like we see with Cavino's and Becker's. The early Bulgarian school fakes (whose makers are still cranking out their wares) and nearing 50 years old (is this about right or is it much less?) and not yet collectible in their own right IMO. I paid $4 for my first group of Slavei's and see them being sold for as much as $20 now when identified as what they are. They are not in the least deceptive to anyone who has handled the originals. What is the current state of our hobby "fake" subspecialty? To make this reply 'legal', I show a slightly different Tacitus from Serdica which includes INVICTVS in the obverse legend. [SIZE=5]RIC temp #3956 specimen #4 (I am proud to have the worst known specimen.)[/SIZE] [SIZE=4][URL]https://ric.mom.fr/en/coin/3956?tempRIC=&asmSelect0=&Reign=Tacitus&asmSelect1=&asmSelect2=&asmSelect3=&asmSelect4=&asmSelect5=&asmSelect6=&Titulature=IMP+C+M+CL+TACITVS+INVICTVS+AVG&Titulature=IMP+C+TACITVS+INVICTVS+AVG&asmSelect7=&asmSelect8=&asmSelect9=&asmSelect10=&asmSelect11=&BustDescription=&ReverseDescription=&Note=&Reference=&page=2&mod=result&hpp=5&from=advanced[/URL][/SIZE] [ATTACH=full]1290798[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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