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<p>[QUOTE="Hookman, post: 3559939, member: 99642"]Trade dollars are not my forte either, but in regards to your two points :</p><p>1) I agree. There are far more chops on most of these coins than we usually see on any coin, however, that in and of itself does not say fake to me. Instead, it says well-travelled. We know that U.S. Trade Dollars were used throughout that part of the world in trade. In fact, U.S. Trade Dollars were preferred by those merchants over other trade dollars. One of these has a "swastika" which implies a visit to the Nepal/Tibet area. We all know the chops were done by merchants to show the coins had been checked by them and were real silver. The more the coin travelled and was used in commerce, the more chops it would have.</p><p>Would a scammer use chops to try to fool people?</p><p>Of course a scammer would.</p><p>A scammer would do anything to further his scam.</p><p>Does that mean that these chops mean these coins are fake?</p><p>Not necessarily. </p><p>2) I disagree. These chops don't look any more crisp or clean than any other chops I've seen. We all know some guys like to clean their coins to, at least, some small degree, to regain luster or shine. Perhaps these were slightly cleaned, or even dipped?</p><p><br /></p><p>I spent a few minutes investigating this guy, his pages, and his feedback.</p><p>He appears to be English or American, living in Spain, selling a variety of items. His most recent sales were various vintage cigarette lighters. His use of the word "petrol" to describe the lighter fuel, says to me that he's English. He had some sales of trade dollars some months back without any complaints or negative feedback. All positive remarks. In fact, his feedback is absolutely clean. No negatives or even neutrals.</p><p>I checked his own recent buys and the sellers he's bought from. I could find no purchases of Chinese fake trade dollars, or purchases of any Chinese coins.</p><p>I found one Chinese seller he has bought from, but the sale was so long ago I wasn't able to see what the item was, however, I checked that seller's items and could find no coins of any kind for sale.</p><p><br /></p><p>All in all, I think the seller is honest and the coins are real, but again, I am not an expert on trade dollars, or any other coins for that matter, however, large, silver, Crown size coins are my most favored area of interest.</p><p>My investigation was done solely as a matter of due diligence to help out my fellow CT members.</p><p>For more certainty on the authenticity of these coins, there are other members who can provide much better opinions of these than I can.</p><p>We should ask for their help.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Hookman, post: 3559939, member: 99642"]Trade dollars are not my forte either, but in regards to your two points : 1) I agree. There are far more chops on most of these coins than we usually see on any coin, however, that in and of itself does not say fake to me. Instead, it says well-travelled. We know that U.S. Trade Dollars were used throughout that part of the world in trade. In fact, U.S. Trade Dollars were preferred by those merchants over other trade dollars. One of these has a "swastika" which implies a visit to the Nepal/Tibet area. We all know the chops were done by merchants to show the coins had been checked by them and were real silver. The more the coin travelled and was used in commerce, the more chops it would have. Would a scammer use chops to try to fool people? Of course a scammer would. A scammer would do anything to further his scam. Does that mean that these chops mean these coins are fake? Not necessarily. 2) I disagree. These chops don't look any more crisp or clean than any other chops I've seen. We all know some guys like to clean their coins to, at least, some small degree, to regain luster or shine. Perhaps these were slightly cleaned, or even dipped? I spent a few minutes investigating this guy, his pages, and his feedback. He appears to be English or American, living in Spain, selling a variety of items. His most recent sales were various vintage cigarette lighters. His use of the word "petrol" to describe the lighter fuel, says to me that he's English. He had some sales of trade dollars some months back without any complaints or negative feedback. All positive remarks. In fact, his feedback is absolutely clean. No negatives or even neutrals. I checked his own recent buys and the sellers he's bought from. I could find no purchases of Chinese fake trade dollars, or purchases of any Chinese coins. I found one Chinese seller he has bought from, but the sale was so long ago I wasn't able to see what the item was, however, I checked that seller's items and could find no coins of any kind for sale. All in all, I think the seller is honest and the coins are real, but again, I am not an expert on trade dollars, or any other coins for that matter, however, large, silver, Crown size coins are my most favored area of interest. My investigation was done solely as a matter of due diligence to help out my fellow CT members. For more certainty on the authenticity of these coins, there are other members who can provide much better opinions of these than I can. We should ask for their help.[/QUOTE]
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