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<p>[QUOTE="skrilla, post: 69003, member: 3404"]let me start by saying "to each his own", and adding i am just sharing my opinion, not trying to demean or insult.</p><p><br /></p><p>i totally agree that XF is a great grade especially for new collectors (myself included) and collectors without a lot of cash to spend (myself included again), however there is something that always bothers me about the main justification people usually use for this :</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>there's a few things people usually dont think of when they say things like this</p><p><br /></p><p>1. coin collecting has gone on for CENTURIES. the US mint knows this Proofs, SMS, etc. in 1931 the mint upped the nickels produced at the SF mint to accomidate collectors, not the public. so even on business strikes its not always</p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p>2. preservation- when coins are encapsulated they are done so to prevent them from being held so they wont lose any "grade". people say they dislike cleaned coins because it removes "history" from the coin, yet they use a coin condom to dissallow any new history from being added TO the coin ( at the same time i read in another thread that grading services use pressurized air to remove dust, and NGC has a cleaning service).</p><p> the main thing that i dont understand about the whole "history of the coin is that you will NEVER be able to discover the actual history of any coin, you can only think and wonder, which is a very daydreamy excuse to me unless you have a pedigree coin like the Siam Set or the 1933 st Guadens.</p><p><br /></p><p>3.artistic qualities- i send you back to the 1st thing on your list</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>even in EF you lose some of the detail and a lot of luster. EF coins are nice but a good MS66+ coin ( especially with attractive or no toning) is just a beauty to behold.</p><p><br /></p><p>again i agree XF is a WONDERFUL grade, i just have never liked the arguement <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="skrilla, post: 69003, member: 3404"]let me start by saying "to each his own", and adding i am just sharing my opinion, not trying to demean or insult. i totally agree that XF is a great grade especially for new collectors (myself included) and collectors without a lot of cash to spend (myself included again), however there is something that always bothers me about the main justification people usually use for this : there's a few things people usually dont think of when they say things like this 1. coin collecting has gone on for CENTURIES. the US mint knows this Proofs, SMS, etc. in 1931 the mint upped the nickels produced at the SF mint to accomidate collectors, not the public. so even on business strikes its not always 2. preservation- when coins are encapsulated they are done so to prevent them from being held so they wont lose any "grade". people say they dislike cleaned coins because it removes "history" from the coin, yet they use a coin condom to dissallow any new history from being added TO the coin ( at the same time i read in another thread that grading services use pressurized air to remove dust, and NGC has a cleaning service). the main thing that i dont understand about the whole "history of the coin is that you will NEVER be able to discover the actual history of any coin, you can only think and wonder, which is a very daydreamy excuse to me unless you have a pedigree coin like the Siam Set or the 1933 st Guadens. 3.artistic qualities- i send you back to the 1st thing on your list even in EF you lose some of the detail and a lot of luster. EF coins are nice but a good MS66+ coin ( especially with attractive or no toning) is just a beauty to behold. again i agree XF is a WONDERFUL grade, i just have never liked the arguement ;)[/QUOTE]
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