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<p>[QUOTE="NewStyleKing, post: 6283380, member: 106483"]The high chronology of Thompson basically of 112 issues were allocated one year each from 197 down. One coin she called a "special Issue" Star between 2 Crescents of king Mithradates and Aristion as magistrates. Without any evidence she said this issue was to commemorate a special gift to Athens from Mithradates lll c 121 BC.</p><p> Coins from then year by year went down to 86 BC and the siege of Piraeus and Athens by Sulla after which all issues of NewStyles ceased.</p><p>However there is a group of NewStyles whose symbols seem to reflect the partisan politics of the run-up to Sullas siege that are related to Eupator of Pontus. In Thompson's high chronology these coins inhabit the late 120's BC so issues of Pegasus. Gorgon Head,Roma, Roma & Nike , Griffin and Star between 2 Crescents seem out of place. The known names of the tyrant Aristion on Pegasus and Star & Crescents and the Thief of Teos, Apellikon on Griffin are out of kilter with their place in history, by 32 years. Hoard evidence was argued about,overstrikes were argued about but Lewis's then Mattingly's low chronology seemed the best fit and is generally adopted today.</p><p>So coins in the high chronology that ran up to Sulla's siege now must find a place and that is after Sulla.</p><p>Indeed a completely new issue appeared in a hoard properly inspected after 50 years lying about in an Athens museum. On Thompson's old high dating, this would not fit!</p><p>Hoards of Athens NewStyles that incorporate denarii tend also to have late Newstyles, Lucullan issues and bits and bobs of other coins associated with the first Mithradatic wars.</p><p>The late NewStyles are all now 2 magistrate issues and progressively become rarer with few known examples and obverse dies after around the 3rd Mithradatic war and seem to be more as personal issues until probably Mark Anthony's sojourn in Athens killed them off.</p><p>It should be stated that whilst Margaret Thompson chronology was wrong her general sequencing of issues has only been marginally modified.</p><p><br /></p><p>John[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="NewStyleKing, post: 6283380, member: 106483"]The high chronology of Thompson basically of 112 issues were allocated one year each from 197 down. One coin she called a "special Issue" Star between 2 Crescents of king Mithradates and Aristion as magistrates. Without any evidence she said this issue was to commemorate a special gift to Athens from Mithradates lll c 121 BC. Coins from then year by year went down to 86 BC and the siege of Piraeus and Athens by Sulla after which all issues of NewStyles ceased. However there is a group of NewStyles whose symbols seem to reflect the partisan politics of the run-up to Sullas siege that are related to Eupator of Pontus. In Thompson's high chronology these coins inhabit the late 120's BC so issues of Pegasus. Gorgon Head,Roma, Roma & Nike , Griffin and Star between 2 Crescents seem out of place. The known names of the tyrant Aristion on Pegasus and Star & Crescents and the Thief of Teos, Apellikon on Griffin are out of kilter with their place in history, by 32 years. Hoard evidence was argued about,overstrikes were argued about but Lewis's then Mattingly's low chronology seemed the best fit and is generally adopted today. So coins in the high chronology that ran up to Sulla's siege now must find a place and that is after Sulla. Indeed a completely new issue appeared in a hoard properly inspected after 50 years lying about in an Athens museum. On Thompson's old high dating, this would not fit! Hoards of Athens NewStyles that incorporate denarii tend also to have late Newstyles, Lucullan issues and bits and bobs of other coins associated with the first Mithradatic wars. The late NewStyles are all now 2 magistrate issues and progressively become rarer with few known examples and obverse dies after around the 3rd Mithradatic war and seem to be more as personal issues until probably Mark Anthony's sojourn in Athens killed them off. It should be stated that whilst Margaret Thompson chronology was wrong her general sequencing of issues has only been marginally modified. John[/QUOTE]
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