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<p>[QUOTE="Theodosius, post: 2791992, member: 77077"]I spent some time talking to Mike Bezayiff, who was sharing a table at the show. Mike is a very knowledgeable dealer who worked with Tom Cederlind for many years before going out on his own. He always has interesting coins and knows a lot about them so I try to meet him when I can. Mike had this fascinating countermarked Greek coin from Dionysopolis. It has the head of Dionysos on the obverse with two very clear countermarks: the head of Athena and the head of Hermes. The reverse (used to ) show a club (of Herakles) between two stars enclosed in a wreath.</p><p><br /></p><p>Mike is an artist and his coin tags are unique and attractive. I included his tag with the photo so you can see what I mean. I have started photographing all the tags that come with coins. It makes it easier to enter the coin's attribution in my catalog later once the coin has gone to the bank.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]648785[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>You can see the reverse was pretty much flattened when the two countermarks were applied.</p><p><br /></p><p>This is what the coin looks like without the countermarks. This photo was taken from CNG's excellent research website. Notice the two stars are probably the Vergina Sun, the symbol of Macedon, because Dionysopolis is located in the same general region. See my old thread on the subject.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/the-vergina-sun-symbol-of-the-royal-dynasty-of-macedon.297244/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/the-vergina-sun-symbol-of-the-royal-dynasty-of-macedon.297244/">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/the-vergina-sun-symbol-of-the-royal-dynasty-of-macedon.297244/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]648789[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>CNG also lists one example of the same coin with only one countermark and a couple others with the same two. I have searched a little and can't find the reason or time when the countermarks were applied. The coin was minted around 200 BC when the town presumably was under the control of Macedon (The Peguin Historical Atlas of Ancient Greece, page 128 <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> ). These countermarks were applied sometime later using two very Greek symbols. Probably not something done after the Romans conquered Moesia Inferior, who might have used a more Roman symbol or some letters or numbers?</p><p><br /></p><p>Steve had some other interesting countermarked coins which I am kicking myself for not picking up when I had the chance. I find it is hard to make perfect decisions when visiting shows, must be like trading futures in the CBOE pit. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Do you all find countermarks interesting? What can you tell us about these Greek countermarks?</p><p><br /></p><p>John[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Theodosius, post: 2791992, member: 77077"]I spent some time talking to Mike Bezayiff, who was sharing a table at the show. Mike is a very knowledgeable dealer who worked with Tom Cederlind for many years before going out on his own. He always has interesting coins and knows a lot about them so I try to meet him when I can. Mike had this fascinating countermarked Greek coin from Dionysopolis. It has the head of Dionysos on the obverse with two very clear countermarks: the head of Athena and the head of Hermes. The reverse (used to ) show a club (of Herakles) between two stars enclosed in a wreath. Mike is an artist and his coin tags are unique and attractive. I included his tag with the photo so you can see what I mean. I have started photographing all the tags that come with coins. It makes it easier to enter the coin's attribution in my catalog later once the coin has gone to the bank. [ATTACH=full]648785[/ATTACH] You can see the reverse was pretty much flattened when the two countermarks were applied. This is what the coin looks like without the countermarks. This photo was taken from CNG's excellent research website. Notice the two stars are probably the Vergina Sun, the symbol of Macedon, because Dionysopolis is located in the same general region. See my old thread on the subject. [url]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/the-vergina-sun-symbol-of-the-royal-dynasty-of-macedon.297244/[/url] [ATTACH=full]648789[/ATTACH] CNG also lists one example of the same coin with only one countermark and a couple others with the same two. I have searched a little and can't find the reason or time when the countermarks were applied. The coin was minted around 200 BC when the town presumably was under the control of Macedon (The Peguin Historical Atlas of Ancient Greece, page 128 :) ). These countermarks were applied sometime later using two very Greek symbols. Probably not something done after the Romans conquered Moesia Inferior, who might have used a more Roman symbol or some letters or numbers? Steve had some other interesting countermarked coins which I am kicking myself for not picking up when I had the chance. I find it is hard to make perfect decisions when visiting shows, must be like trading futures in the CBOE pit. :) Do you all find countermarks interesting? What can you tell us about these Greek countermarks? John[/QUOTE]
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