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<p>[QUOTE="CamaroDMD, post: 4515713, member: 5233"]I totally agree with what you are saying. I didn't realize that older people were shown to have some immunity to H1N1 back then...I suppose that would explain why that particular pandemic hit my age demographic harder than normal but didn't hammer older people as bad as expected.</p><p><br /></p><p>Immunity tends to be one of those things that "lay people" view like an on/off switch. Where you either are or you aren't. That's not remotely true. It varies greatly by the individual and my pathogen. My guess that not a lot if the population in that age had immunity to it but enough did to give some level of herd immunity. We also know that having a virus results in a much wider spectrum of antibody resistance than a vaccine normally does. If I remember right, a lot of vaccines result in increased IgE antibody levels but not nearly as much in the other antobody types.</p><p><br /></p><p>One thing I keep wondering is this. I remember the 2009 flu pandemic. I was a graduate student at a teaching hospital and we were fitted for N95 masks because it was believed that it could result in the same kinds of shutdowns and "mass panic" we are seeing today. I know that COVID is more contagious (if I remember right, the 2009 H1N1 transmission rate was about 1:1.6 while this is closer to 1:2). But, it doesn't seem to me that this particular virus is any more dangerous than the H1N1 was yet the world has stopped. I don't remember day to day life being impacted that greatly in 2009. Heck, I felt like it effected me more than most because I was working/studying at a hospital.</p><p><br /></p><p>I understand the medical side of it...and I don't want to get into a political debate. But the two pandemics feel about the same in actual human effect but the response has been greatly different.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="CamaroDMD, post: 4515713, member: 5233"]I totally agree with what you are saying. I didn't realize that older people were shown to have some immunity to H1N1 back then...I suppose that would explain why that particular pandemic hit my age demographic harder than normal but didn't hammer older people as bad as expected. Immunity tends to be one of those things that "lay people" view like an on/off switch. Where you either are or you aren't. That's not remotely true. It varies greatly by the individual and my pathogen. My guess that not a lot if the population in that age had immunity to it but enough did to give some level of herd immunity. We also know that having a virus results in a much wider spectrum of antibody resistance than a vaccine normally does. If I remember right, a lot of vaccines result in increased IgE antibody levels but not nearly as much in the other antobody types. One thing I keep wondering is this. I remember the 2009 flu pandemic. I was a graduate student at a teaching hospital and we were fitted for N95 masks because it was believed that it could result in the same kinds of shutdowns and "mass panic" we are seeing today. I know that COVID is more contagious (if I remember right, the 2009 H1N1 transmission rate was about 1:1.6 while this is closer to 1:2). But, it doesn't seem to me that this particular virus is any more dangerous than the H1N1 was yet the world has stopped. I don't remember day to day life being impacted that greatly in 2009. Heck, I felt like it effected me more than most because I was working/studying at a hospital. I understand the medical side of it...and I don't want to get into a political debate. But the two pandemics feel about the same in actual human effect but the response has been greatly different.[/QUOTE]
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