Suffix Symbols Used on Large Size Paper Money

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If you do not believe me.....here is but just 1 link to the topic.


RickieB

 

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That's about the size of it, yes. Serials on the large-size notes didn't have leading zeroes, and so there was no standard number of digits. So the BEP decided fairly early on that some prefix/suffix characters should be used in order to prevent alterations (though exactly what nefarious purpose would be accomplished by adding digits to the serial number of a genuine note, I've no idea).

There's an interesting variety in the original-series Nationals: the earliest printings don't have a serial suffix of any kind, and if the serial number is shorter than six digits, they have a large white space between the serial prefix letter and the number itself. But that format didn't last long; the majority of the notes have a parenthesis as a serial suffix, and no space after the prefix. (The whole serialling system was very much made up as the BEP went along--it wasn't until the third block of original-series $1's that the BEP introduced serial prefixes at all. The first block had red serials without prefix or suffix; the second block had blue serials without prefix or suffix; and the third block went back to red with prefix A, since the BEP apparently realized that they'd never find enough different colors to keep using *that* method forever. This is why you'll see some serials in this series catalogued as, e.g., "114280 blue"--the "blue" is the block designator, because there was also a 114280 red printed in the previous block!)

More than once, I've idly thought that it'd be nice to have complete data on what serial suffix symbols (and what serial colors) were used on what notes. But as far as I can tell, nobody's compiled such data; and I don't really have the resources to do it myself. It'd be much harder than simply checking one note of each series/denomination/type--some of the large-size series were printed for several decades with many signature combinations, and the serial colors and serial suffix symbols were occasionally changed mid-series just like the seal colors/styles were, for no apparent reason.

One thing I'm pretty sure of is that the 1869 USNs and the 1890-91 Coin Notes are the only large-size series to use the solid-star suffix. That's useful to know because one often encounters uninformed/dishonest sellers trying to pass them off as star (replacement) notes.... All actual large-size star notes used a hollow-centered star, not a solid star.

 

The pic in the book is more thn likely copyrighted..permission must be granted.....open the front cover and look at the Publisher's statement on copyright!
If you were to profit from it without permission, you could be sued big time!

The clause that is questionable is the "burden of proof" for the owner, thats why companies like "Digimark" exist today...an embeded mark can be tracked via online posting of copyrighted images.

Tread lightly my friends...the electronic eye's are watching you too!

RickieB

 

Yep ... my bad I think i was refering to what Ceasar wrote... sorry troodon

 

pulling any image from a book that has a copyright clause in the front is not a good idea. Depending on the image or text used, they may never be able to proove you got the stuff from that particular book, but its not worth it.

As for obtaining images off the internet, most sites that post images, if they want to retain the rights to the image would say so (i would think) ... i guess a question i would have would be are any copyrights abandoned on an image if the owner posts it to the internet without stating he reserves his rights? Or does the owner have to specifically state he releases his rights for the image to be free?

fooeuy

In the end, if you find an image in a book, or on the internet, that shows the symbol you want... all you have to do is ask the owner or website for permission.

good luck RickieB

 

Hey Daggar...

I pay a fee for having Digimark embed a electronic tracking code in Images I take for Commercial customers that use my images on their websites.
I get a report and link to the IP address of every image used that has this encoded info in it. Even if I only took a small portion of the image the tag may very welll be inside it.

I would more than likely write or call the image owner to ask permission to use it and for what reason. If I published an image libraty and charged for it then they would have the rights to a portion of the proceeds....Legal, legal and more legal.

Most photographers will put a copy right on the image one way or another..you have to watch for the ones who embed code cuz they can take you to the cleaners if you profit from one of their images!

Hope all is well....


RickieB

 

Budgood... I brought this thread back to the front for you.


If you still have questions, PM me and I will explain further!

RickieB

 

Noost...I have read several books on the Symbols of our Money, Seals and Government...thanks for the link...

The dollar bill is a real wealth of Mathamatics!!


RickieB

 

you are welcome. Hope it has some info you don't already know.

 

So exactly how does a photographer gain copyright over something that isn't copyrighted to begin with? It's like me saying that any images of the US Constitution that I make is copyrighted, even thought the Constitution itself is a public domain document!! Same with Coins and Paper Money, as works of the US government, they are public domain items; ergo, if I make a straight on photo or scan, and compliance with the counterfeiting laws, I can't claim that I made the note or image (lest I wanna run afoul of the US Secret Service)

Likewise, I can't take a picture of Kermit the Frog and use that in a project unless I get permission from whomever holds that green things copyright.