Submitting World Pattern Coins to TPGs

1. If it is in a recognized publication, they'll slab it (they have many specialist resources).

2.) Why don't you ask NGC? They are extremely helpful, and have the best customer service of any TPG. Give them a call (their number is on the website), and I'm sure they can answer your question far more accurately than the speculation of some random people on a random website.

 

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@daveydempsey : Why do you care so much? I participate on another forum based in the UK, and I constantly stomach the vitriol and hatred sentiment of slabs -- we supposed USA collector "lemmings" are apparently too stupid to understand the UK way of collecting -- you sound just like them...

I simply don't understand why so much energy and huff is spent by people like you in hating something. This hobby is enjoyed many different ways -- your way is not the ONLY way. When someone asks if a company WILL slab something, they aren't asking your opinion of WHETHER it should be slabbed. That decision is the owner's. Get over it.

@Jaelus : I would love to see pictures of your coin if you had some to post.

 

I participate on another forum based in the USA and good proportion of the American collectors disagree with slabbing and grading companies.
I agree with those Americans also.

Here is a thread from another Coin & Paper money forum showing the scams of currency graders, literally thousands of graded banknotes being offered to buyers.
http://community.ebay.com/t5/Coins-...-Money-aka-Hall-Of-Shame-Part-4/td-p/21296976

 

If you want to get on your soap box, then do it in your own thread. Not one where someone was asking if a company WILL slab something (not WHETHER it should be slabbed). You're entitled to your opinion, but it serves no useful purpose to hijack someone's thread to pontificate. That was my point.

 

I`m sorry I didn`t know you was in charge.
I thought I could participate on any thread not just the ones you say I can.
I did not hijack it, I simply asked a question "Why would you pay someone else to tell you what you already know."
It seems some cages were rattled, however many US collectors agree with me.

 

I guess this is just an example that tact can't be taught.

How would you like if someone trolled around this site and in every thread you posted a raw coin asked you "Why don't you buy slabbed coins instead?" It's not the issue of one thing being more right, and the other being wrong, it's the issue of the OP didn't ask for your opinion of the worthiness of the coin for slabbing -- you had nothing useful to add to his question, but you chimed in with your negativity and agenda anyway.

I guess you just don't get the difference. Whatever, carry on with your normal polemics.

 

Its not your thread, I was not trolling, after my initial question I was replying to other posters who replied to me.
mind your own business.

 

Sure, I took some quick pics. Here you go:

Hungary 5 Korona 1922 Pattern KE5
No initials on obverse
Nickel 4.75g, 24mm, 2mm thickness, plain edge

 

i love how many people assume they know who slabs coins and who doesn't. but then again there are know~it~alls everywhere. i slab coins for different reasons not just value. i have 20 unslabbed for ever 1 i slabbed.

im curious davey dempsy if only america slabs why are their world slabbing companies in uk canada germany china ect...

 

I got some slabs, and they're mostly a good idea if you don't send them in yourself. If I have a choice between a slabbed coin and raw, both the same price, why not go for the slab? But I agree it's kinda a fad that may sooner or later die in popularity in the USA. And it's expensive if you have a tight budget

 

Beautiful coin!

 

Third-Party Grading (slabbing) is actually quite pronounced in South Korea for Korean coins; to an extent not often seen outside of North America. NGC corners the market there, with Hwadong Co. Ltd. as its international submission center.

My head tells me that the "sight-unseen" internet market ~kind of~ necessitates TPGing, especially with those pricier collector coins.

My heart, however, is with daveydempsey's sentiments.

 

Jaelus:
Have you been able to find other text resources on Hungarian coins? In English or Hungarian? It seems you are starting to gather a decent understanding of these coins, and if the Newman Numismatic Portal at Washington University in St. Louis ever gets off the ground (http://newmannumismaticportal.com), perhaps you will gain an even better understanding? The portal will (eventually) feature online numismatic texts scanned in electronic format. I'm hoping it will help me with my research. If you have enough info on Hungarian coins to make a statement of a little significance, even if only a few paragraphs long, please consider submitting an article to CoinWeek or COINage. You could even get paid with COINage. I've had a few of mine published at these places, with another article currently under consideration. Think about it.

 

The Magyar Erme Katalogus (1848-2010) was an invaluable resource, and I've since ordered the updated version (1848-2012) put out by the author's son after his death. Aside from this, I've found that old auction catalogs from the European auction houses have been the most help in finding supplemental information, especially regarding medals and jetons. I've also gotten a lot of help from another local ancient/classic Hungarian collector that a local world coins dealer got me in touch with.

I had originally set out create an uncirculated type set of the coins of the Austro-Hungarian compromise (1867-1916). Based on my research I've included 40 regular issues, 1 commemorative token (struck in gold, silver, and bronze), 2 mules, and 2 patterns in this set. I'm about 65% complete (not including restrikes), with most of the remaining coins being prohibitively expensive and/or extremely scarce. I'm mostly working on upgrades and proof restrikes now.

In researching this set and finding additional resources, I expanded into the Austrian occupation coins minted in Hungary (mints B, E, G) from 1851-1867, including the Hungarian versions of the coronation jetons minted in Vienna in 1867, as well as other Hungarian coronation medals of Franz Joseph I and Elisabeth. On the other end, I expanded into the scarce types and coronation medals of Karoly IV and Empress Zita, which are mostly patterns (1916-1922). I'm now getting into the Kingdom of Hungary coins minted under Regent Horthy (1927-1946).

All in all it's been a great set to work on. I don't have everything photographed yet, but the Franz Joseph stuff I have posted on CollectiveCoin here: https://collectivecoin.com/Jaelus/6Zzt59HxHDIRhfzO5vI6

 

Update:

I sent this into NGC with a photocopy of supporting documentation and they clearly made use of it. Here's the grade and attribution:

 

You are becoming an expert in this field!

Perhaps you are one of only a few (or the only one) who could write an English-language article on the topic of Hungarian Franz Josef pieces, or patterns, like this one.

I urge you to publish!
http://coinagemag.com/writers-guidelines/