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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 8128822, member: 24314"]wxcoin, asked me: </p><p><br /></p><p>1. "What do you think the grader turnover rate is today at the top two relative to ten years ago?' </p><p><br /></p><p>I<i><span style="color: #660033"> have no idea. About twelve years ago market conditions were different and some layoffs occurred. Lots of the top guys at one service left including its founder at another service. We hear rumors in recent years BUT see ads looking to hire new employees. </span></i> </p><p><br /></p><p>2. "How many coins is a grader expected to grade per day relative to ten years ago?" </p><p><br /></p><p><i><span style="color: #660033">I have no idea. As a grader/authenticator, I personally have NEVER been under pressure to grade a certain number of coins - ever at ANACS in DC, INSAB, PCI, NGC or ICG. After helping to start NCS at NGC it was the same - no pressure. Additionally, I have never known any employee who was pressured to perform. I do know of one employee who was let go because he was not doing a good job getting tokens graded and identified in a timely manner. Additionally, I SUSPECT that the young graders of SE need to get things done fast. Perhaps that's why not all 70's from ANY major TPGS are not true 70's. </span></i> </p><p><br /></p><p>3. "In this regard, how does ICG compare? I always thought it would be nice to get trained and work as a grader. But in hindsite it may have ruined my passion to be a collector."</p><p><br /></p><p><i><span style="color: #660033">I would not want to be a grader ANYWHERE if I had to start in 2000 or after unless I was a teen or twenty-something and loved coins , and planed to eventually become a coin dealer. I have been very fortunate to get my start when grading and especially authentication was in the "Extremely Dark Ages." We probably received less than seventy coins a week at ANACS in 1972. I don't wish to comment on how unbelievably wonderful the working conditions are for me now; but I will say that in spite of the 10 + hour days and large submission volume (we are training young replacements for some day in the future when our senior staff is found dead at our desk with big smiles) <b>I get to spend as much time as I want to research, grade, photo, conserve, or attribute any US or foreign coin</b> that comes into ICG. That's probably because big companies and stockholders don't own us. </span></i></p><p><i><span style="color: #660033"><br /></span></i></p><p><i><span style="color: #660033">PS I guess I've written in numismatic News before that between 10 and 20 seconds is a good average for most uninteresting vintage coins and moderns.</span></i></p><p><i><span style="color: #660033"><br /></span></i></p><p><i><span style="color: #660033">1. Remove from flip.</span></i></p><p><i><span style="color: #660033">2. Look at both sides.</span></i></p><p><i><span style="color: #660033">3. Looking again at both sides using a 7X lens & 100W incandescent light.</span></i></p><p><i><span style="color: #660033">4. Often looking again using florescent light and a 7X scope.</span></i></p><p><i><span style="color: #660033">5. Entering computer stuff</span></i></p><p><i><span style="color: #660033">6. Place back in flip.</span></i></p><p><i><span style="color: #660033"><br /></span></i></p><p><i><span style="color: #660033">But, I've spent 10 to 20 minutes on a single coin several times a day! I'll bet that even a long-time, experienced grader can't do that at a top two TPGS. The coin would go to someone else similar to Dave Lange at NGC to research it or write an article. </span></i>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 8128822, member: 24314"]wxcoin, asked me: 1. "What do you think the grader turnover rate is today at the top two relative to ten years ago?' I[I][COLOR=#660033] have no idea. About twelve years ago market conditions were different and some layoffs occurred. Lots of the top guys at one service left including its founder at another service. We hear rumors in recent years BUT see ads looking to hire new employees. [/COLOR][/I] 2. "How many coins is a grader expected to grade per day relative to ten years ago?" [I][COLOR=#660033]I have no idea. As a grader/authenticator, I personally have NEVER been under pressure to grade a certain number of coins - ever at ANACS in DC, INSAB, PCI, NGC or ICG. After helping to start NCS at NGC it was the same - no pressure. Additionally, I have never known any employee who was pressured to perform. I do know of one employee who was let go because he was not doing a good job getting tokens graded and identified in a timely manner. Additionally, I SUSPECT that the young graders of SE need to get things done fast. Perhaps that's why not all 70's from ANY major TPGS are not true 70's. [/COLOR][/I] 3. "In this regard, how does ICG compare? I always thought it would be nice to get trained and work as a grader. But in hindsite it may have ruined my passion to be a collector." [I][COLOR=#660033]I would not want to be a grader ANYWHERE if I had to start in 2000 or after unless I was a teen or twenty-something and loved coins , and planed to eventually become a coin dealer. I have been very fortunate to get my start when grading and especially authentication was in the "Extremely Dark Ages." We probably received less than seventy coins a week at ANACS in 1972. I don't wish to comment on how unbelievably wonderful the working conditions are for me now; but I will say that in spite of the 10 + hour days and large submission volume (we are training young replacements for some day in the future when our senior staff is found dead at our desk with big smiles) [B]I get to spend as much time as I want to research, grade, photo, conserve, or attribute any US or foreign coin[/B] that comes into ICG. That's probably because big companies and stockholders don't own us. PS I guess I've written in numismatic News before that between 10 and 20 seconds is a good average for most uninteresting vintage coins and moderns. 1. Remove from flip. 2. Look at both sides. 3. Looking again at both sides using a 7X lens & 100W incandescent light. 4. Often looking again using florescent light and a 7X scope. 5. Entering computer stuff 6. Place back in flip. But, I've spent 10 to 20 minutes on a single coin several times a day! I'll bet that even a long-time, experienced grader can't do that at a top two TPGS. The coin would go to someone else similar to Dave Lange at NGC to research it or write an article. [/COLOR][/I][/QUOTE]
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