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<p>[QUOTE="rrekowjr, post: 1261733, member: 27204"]Okay, so I have held off throwing my two cent....err five cents in because like everyone else I share similar views but since the coin is now at $1,000 and the reserve is still not met I thought I should say some things.</p><p><br /></p><p>First off, Lehigh96 has a 1941-D MS67 * 5FS that is a better example of toning than the pictures from this e-bay auction (having seen former pictures of this coin it appears to be a little juiced in it's current photos). According to Lehigh96's comments on his coin and the link to the actual Heritage Auction from where he bought his with 5FS a little over 3 years ago, he paid $920 (includes the Buyer's Premium). Regardless of which coin I think looks better and since they both have "star" rating associated with them, based upon the slab grade (not necessarily the coin) and it being given a 6FS designation it is conceivable that this coin could fetch $1500+ again. However since this coin has changed hands quite a bit recently, I am guessing the reserve will be around $1500 and that reserve will not be met.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now let's discuss the coin. Without seeing the coin in hand I find it inconclusive as to whether this coin warrants the 6FS grading or not. I agree their is a nick at the 3rd step under the first pillar cutting diagonally two steps below but according to Nagengast "Any bagmarks in the step area, usually showing as nicks and abrasions, must not be deep enough to cut all the way into the depressions between the steps.". So in my opinion, under higher magnification the NGC might have determined that this nick was not deep enough.</p><p><br /></p><p>Someone also mentioned the step blending beginning just under the base of the second pillar and continuing through the third pillar. To me it appears the top of the reverse of the nickel is tilted back a little. This coin is not flat and therefore it is possible that the tilt at the top is not allowing the top step to properly block the light from going into the depression to show whether or not this top step is well defined. It is equally possible that the steps are blended as stated but without having the coin in hand I think it is impossible to properly evaluate the steps on this coin. It is obvious this coin was pictured to show off or portray more vibrant toning than one would see normally rather than the finer details.</p><p><br /></p><p>In my opinion (some others on this site would agree) the NGC tends to be more strict on which Jefferson nickels are given 5FS or 6FS grade. So, without looking at this coin up close myself, I would (for the time being at least) have to side with NGC and agree with the grade unless someday I am able to see the coin in hand to determine otherwise.</p><p><br /></p><p>Regardless of how much toning is actually present I find this coin to be quite lovely from a detail perspective. It is nice to see most of the side-steps present at the right of the reverse and what may be all of the steps at the left of the reverse. As a bargain hunter myself, it is because of that "star" grade that makes me stay away from Jefferson nickels like this because it is simply WAY, WAY, WAY out of my budget. So, unless I win the lotto I can only hope that with a little patience and luck I can find one without a "star" grade in the $200 or less range someday. If that happens, I will be a very happy man!</p><p><br /></p><p>Raul[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="rrekowjr, post: 1261733, member: 27204"]Okay, so I have held off throwing my two cent....err five cents in because like everyone else I share similar views but since the coin is now at $1,000 and the reserve is still not met I thought I should say some things. First off, Lehigh96 has a 1941-D MS67 * 5FS that is a better example of toning than the pictures from this e-bay auction (having seen former pictures of this coin it appears to be a little juiced in it's current photos). According to Lehigh96's comments on his coin and the link to the actual Heritage Auction from where he bought his with 5FS a little over 3 years ago, he paid $920 (includes the Buyer's Premium). Regardless of which coin I think looks better and since they both have "star" rating associated with them, based upon the slab grade (not necessarily the coin) and it being given a 6FS designation it is conceivable that this coin could fetch $1500+ again. However since this coin has changed hands quite a bit recently, I am guessing the reserve will be around $1500 and that reserve will not be met. Now let's discuss the coin. Without seeing the coin in hand I find it inconclusive as to whether this coin warrants the 6FS grading or not. I agree their is a nick at the 3rd step under the first pillar cutting diagonally two steps below but according to Nagengast "Any bagmarks in the step area, usually showing as nicks and abrasions, must not be deep enough to cut all the way into the depressions between the steps.". So in my opinion, under higher magnification the NGC might have determined that this nick was not deep enough. Someone also mentioned the step blending beginning just under the base of the second pillar and continuing through the third pillar. To me it appears the top of the reverse of the nickel is tilted back a little. This coin is not flat and therefore it is possible that the tilt at the top is not allowing the top step to properly block the light from going into the depression to show whether or not this top step is well defined. It is equally possible that the steps are blended as stated but without having the coin in hand I think it is impossible to properly evaluate the steps on this coin. It is obvious this coin was pictured to show off or portray more vibrant toning than one would see normally rather than the finer details. In my opinion (some others on this site would agree) the NGC tends to be more strict on which Jefferson nickels are given 5FS or 6FS grade. So, without looking at this coin up close myself, I would (for the time being at least) have to side with NGC and agree with the grade unless someday I am able to see the coin in hand to determine otherwise. Regardless of how much toning is actually present I find this coin to be quite lovely from a detail perspective. It is nice to see most of the side-steps present at the right of the reverse and what may be all of the steps at the left of the reverse. As a bargain hunter myself, it is because of that "star" grade that makes me stay away from Jefferson nickels like this because it is simply WAY, WAY, WAY out of my budget. So, unless I win the lotto I can only hope that with a little patience and luck I can find one without a "star" grade in the $200 or less range someday. If that happens, I will be a very happy man! Raul[/QUOTE]
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