Stumped by this Probus reverse

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  1. Johnnie Black

    Johnnie Black Neither Gentleman Nor Scholar

    I don’t have anything like this Probus reverse type but I am stumped by the reverse legend. I think it ends with “ITAS” but the only Probus reverse type I can find that would fit is TEMPORVM FELICITAS but this appears to start with S. The slab description is wrong adding to the mystery. Any thoughts on the real legend?
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  3. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    the reverse legend is SAECVLI FELICITAS

    are you sure it is Probus?
     
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  4. Johnnie Black

    Johnnie Black Neither Gentleman Nor Scholar

    Yes. Do you think mule or a counterfeit?
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  5. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    I have not spent a lot of time researching Probus, but I could not find this one in RIC.

    I also did not find it here--

    https://probvs.net/probvs/
     
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  6. Johnnie Black

    Johnnie Black Neither Gentleman Nor Scholar

    Thanks for checking. I also checked probuscoins.fr and had no luck. I guess it could be a counterfeit or a mule but I’m not sure how to confirm.
     
  7. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Is this your coin or seller's photos? If the latter, I could suspect the two photos are different coins. The reverse reminds me of an earlier period denarius.
     
  8. Johnnie Black

    Johnnie Black Neither Gentleman Nor Scholar

    Good catch. These are the sellers image. Possibly it is a mismatch. Now that you mention it the coin in the obverse image seems much bigger than the one in the reverse image.
     
  9. LaCointessa

    LaCointessa Well-Known Member

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  11. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    The obverse is from the mint of Tripolis. These are only known with a very limited set of reverses. That wouldn't be one of them.
     
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  12. Johnnie Black

    Johnnie Black Neither Gentleman Nor Scholar

    Seller confirmed the photo combo error. Apologies for the wild goose chase.
     
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  13. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    The tip here other than the type mismatch is the relative size of the dots that make the border. These can vary in size from mint to mint and time to time but the reverse was a denarius with smaller diameter and fewer dots while the larger obverse had more dots that appear smaller in the photo. Either is perfectly normal but the two used together would be unusual.
     
  14. LaCointessa

    LaCointessa Well-Known Member


    Our expert @dougsmit took a gander at your coin and avoided a wild goose chase!!

    (Sorry, but I couldn't avoid the pun)
     
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