Stuck with lenses post your "kit lens photos."

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Detecto92, May 31, 2012.

  1. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    I recently sold my Canon Elph 100 Hs.

    It was not a bad camera, but I decided to go with a DSLR for more image customization.

    I bought a Used Nikon D60 Body. It's 10mp. I know it's not the newest DSLR (4 years old), but it takes amazing images from what I saw.

    Now I need a lens, but cannot decide.

    Norman Rockwell reviewed the "kit lens" (the stock lens that comes with the camera), and said it will work for 90% of what you need it for.

    But then I read on other websites that the kit lens is not great for macro, and people suggest a true macro lens.

    However, I still need a stock lens for everyday shooting. If I buy a macro lens, it's and extra $200.

    So I am asking for people to post pictures of coins they took with the kit lens that came with their SLR if they have it.
     
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  3. Cazkaboom

    Cazkaboom One for all, all for me.

    All my photos are kit lenses.
    18-55 that is.
     
  4. PennyGuy

    PennyGuy US and CDN Copper

    I don't own a "standard" AF Nikon lens. I have two Micros a 60mm and a 105mm Micro . Also have a bunch of old Nikkor lens' from my film days.
     
  5. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

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    Are the Micro's AF-S? Or lens driven autofocus?

    Post a pic taken with the 60 and then the 105 if you can.


    Thanks.
     
  6. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Dont have any coin pics with my Nikon 18-55 kit lens, sorry. But congrats on the Used Nikon D60 Body. I would recommend the prime 35mm or prime 50mm. Both awesome and cheap. Read reviews for them on http://kenrockwell.com/, which I assume you are refering to, and NOT Norman Rockwell. :p
     
  7. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    Do you have any photos with those mentioned lenses?
     
  8. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Well, I have 40,000 family photos of my kids and wife, etc. yes, 40,000+, that is not an exageration, but there are a few other lens mixed in there like the sigma 50mm macro lense I shot with. The family photos on the 50mm prime are amazing!

    For coins, about 95% are taken with this:

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/341927-USA/Sigma_346306_50mm_f_2_8_EX_DG.html

    I like it alot, but there are plenty of other options out there, including lens not available many years ago when I bought that.

    Just look up any post I have made with pics, and you can see example.
     
  9. PennyGuy

    PennyGuy US and CDN Copper

    Neither AF lens is an S. I use manual focus anyway. On-line you won't be able to tell the difference between two pics of the same coin taken with the two lens'.

    Post number 28 in this thread is a CWT pic taken with the 105mm. http://www.cointalk.com/t206405-2/
     
  10. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    "Norman Rockwell" now reviews lenses, huh? Kids these days...

    If your goal is shooting coins, buy a macro. While some of the secondary makes are okay, you might as well go for a Nikon lens (micro). Not cheap but well worth the investment.

    Be willing to spend well into the hundreds for a macro. If too much you might as well just buy an 18-55 as there are certain little tricks you can use to lessen the overall difference. Unless you are shooting coins regularly (or have other uses for this type of lens), it may be tough to justify the cost.
     
  11. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    THe Nikkor 18-55 lens is just fine for photographing coins. Use the Macro settings on the camera, and you will get great results. I am pleased with it, for all types of photography. Of course, it isn't the only lens I use, but for general purposes, it will be very suitable, and it isn't an expensive lens.
     
  12. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    While I agree the 18-55 is a very nice kit lens, and very cheap, the best part of the sigma /nikkor macro/micro lens is their abilty to focus at very close distances. Meaning, you can get a coin much closer to the lens and still focus, while other types of lenses, not so much. Now, if an extra $200+ worth that, depends on how much money you have laying around.

    Detecto, the reason I suggest the 50mm prime lens is that it is very cheap, and absolutely amazing. The best part is, you can use it for your coins, and EVERYTHING else. Coins are not the only thing you'll want to use you new fancy camera for, (or at least they shouldn't be). The nikkor 50mm is fantastic as your eveyday lens. It's great in low light, it's small and compact, it's practical, etc, etc.

    don't take my word for it, read through some of these reviews, then determine if you think it fits the bill.

    http://kenrockwell.com/nikon/50mm-f18-g.htm
    http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Nikon_Nikkor_AF-S_50mm_f1-8G/
    http://mansurovs.com/nikon-50mm-f1-8g-review
    http://www.bythom.com/nikkor-50mm-f18-lens-review.htm

    But, as other's have said, you can't go wrong with the 18-55, it's just that at some point you'll want to upgrade. I almost never have the 18-55 on either the D70 or the D7000. I use the 35mm http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/35mm-f18.htm, and 50mm, as stated above. I could use it anytime I want, it just tends to get left behind...
     
  13. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    Would the 50mm be better at macro then the 18-55?

    And which 50mm, the 1.4 or 1.8?

    Thanks.
     
  14. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator


    Well, if you are not talking about the Macro/Micro (means same thing) lens, then you might be better off the the 18-55 in terms of close focus distance. Check this page for the basics:

    http://imaging.nikon.com/history/basics/19/04.htm

    18-55 Close Focus: 11" or 0.28m.

    50mm f/1.8G: 1.5 feet (0.45m).

    The better lens is still the 50mm overall, but if you are going to attempt to use a non-macro lens for macro photography, the 18-55 can get in closer to the coins, so that would be the choice.

    In regards to the 1.4G vs the 1.8G, the 1.4G is alot more money becuase it is slightly faster (it opens wider and lets in more light, which drops the shutter speed). I have also never used the 1.4G. I would buy the 50mm 1.8G and the 18-55, since you could get both lens for less money than the 1.4G I believe.

    Since you have a D60, be very carefull about buying older used lens or lens that dont have a built in focus engine, since you will not be able to autofocus! I almost forgot that when I was linking to the sigma 50mm macro, which would not autofocus for you. My D70 and D7000 dont have that limitation, so I just normally blow right past it.

    Like I said earlier, the 18-55 is a very good choice and will let you get to about 11 inches from the coins. I would say buy it from BH, but it's out of stock. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/477230-USA/Nikon_2170_18_55mm_f_3_5_5_6G_ED_II.html

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/477230-GREY/Nikon_2170_18_55mm_f_3_5_5_6G_ED_II.html

    Good luck! Now stop reading posts by me and everyone else, get a good lens and just start playing!
     
  15. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    I agree with everything that Geek said in his previous posts. IF MACRO is the main need for the lens, the 18-55 is better than a prime 50 mm lens. I do a lot of nature and landscape photography, as well as coins, so having lenses with variable focal lengths is essential. I also have two telephotos and a wide angle, all of which are very expensive. The 18-55 isn't expensive, and does have an excellent macro mode. All of these lenses will work with any of the recent Nikon bodies in the past 5 years. I've tried the 1.4G lens, and the only thing it is better at is if you do a lot of night shooting without flash, and long exposures. As Geekpryde said, any recent autofocus lens will do you well, but I recommend that moderately priced lens--its optical quality is outstanding (I project images onto my 50" TV with it, and have my photos displayed on a 27" iMac, and the quality stands up well).

    Two other things--if B and H is out of the lens, Abe's of Maine has good prices on Nikon Products, and is honest. I've dealt with them for years. Second, for photographing coins, a fixed lens camera can work as well as can a DSLR. For my travel camera, I have a Sony HX200V, and it is awfully close to the Nikon in terms of image quality. So, one can get great pictures of anything with decent equipment, and it is more the photographer and the lighting.
     
  16. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Detecto, The 1.8 is just fine. No need to go to the 1.4, particularly for coin photography where max aperature is not useful anyway. FWIW, I own both lenses, and frankly I find the 35mm and even 20mm lenses more useful on the 1.5x Nikon format. But I don't use either of them for macro, but more general purpose photography.

    That said, you will get much better coin photo performance from a dedicated macro lens. I would recommend something at least 100mm and preferably 150 or more. Sigma, Tamron, and Nikon all make superb macro lenses.

    If you really want to do a good job photographing your coins, save your money and get a dedicated macro.
     
  17. Chiefbullsit

    Chiefbullsit CRAZY HORSE

    Most of my pics are horrible. I hope to spend more time this summer getting some decent shots.

    I've spent hours taking pics only to get disgusted and delete the whole file...:yes:
     
  18. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    Well here is what I found out, and what I did.

    I bought the D60 body by itself. I paid around $200 used.

    I bought a new in box 18-55mm lens that seller purchased from store, and never used.

    The reason being because a lot of the lenses I see that are cheap, may be "grey market".

    If a Nikon Lens is sold in the US, but if the lens itself was made for another region...say Euro or China...Nikon will not honor the warranty.

    When it's all said and done, I will have about 330 wrapped up in it. Not bad at all Considering the D3000 with kit lens is $450 at walmart.
     
  19. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    The D-3000 is not as good a camera as the older D-60. You have to go up to the 5100 or 7000 series to get a more versatile body.
     
  20. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    What is the difference? I thought the D3000 replaced the D60.
     
  21. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Really? I've used both and believe the D3000 a much better camera (overall) than the D60 or D80, so I would be very interested in hearing how you can state this as a fact.

    Detecto.. had you looked around a new D3000 probably could have been found for about the same money, but if your D60 is a nice functional camera, you did okay. How many actuations does it have?
     
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