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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 3011804, member: 24314"]<span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 179)">Jack D. Young, posted: "You worked at ANACS? And now ICG? Does ICG have the "stereomicroscope" you keep referring to?"</span></p><p><br /></p><p>Yes, Jack. When I was about 6 or 7, my grandfather gave me an antique French brass microscope and a collection of slides. I still have it. Since then, I've used a microscope to look at things in Biology classes in high school and Biology, Mineralogy, and Genetic classes in college. Funny thing, I never looked at a coin with one until joining ANACS. The Mint authenticators used them and they trained my boss how to authenticate coins. Since then (almost 50 years), I've used a stereo microscope every where I've worked including NGC and NCS. BTW, I think one reason the second tier TPGS are so strict is they use stereomicroscopes to examine coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>I RARELY grade or authenticate ANY coin without looking at it with my <b><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0)">eyes </span></b>first. The <b><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0)">scope and florescent light</span></b> (4.5X and two eyes unless more magnification needed) second and finally a <b><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0)">7X hand lens</span></b>. You see Jack, I wish to see everything possible to see on a coin in order to make an informed opinion. Then I want to see what 98% of the other people can see with just their hand lens. Additionally, after seeing the characteristics on coins under high magnification a student is able to ID them with a low power hand lens. I puke when I see well-known, knowledgeable, professionals discussing something on a coin for several minutes when it should have only taken a few seconds if they had been trained with a scope. </p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 179)">Also, do you really feel that non-seasoned copper collectors are actually "these idiots you mention" as you previously stated? Wow, talk about "self serving"</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 179)"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">Nice try Jack. The idiots are the folks who don't believe a TPGS can make an honest mistake. The idiots are those who you show a very deceptive RAW fake yet they don't believe you and think you are lying that it was ever in a slab. </span></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">IMHO, <b>the only "Self-Serving" going on is being done by those "experts" showing counterfeits in TPGS slabs and claiming they are doing it to show how dangerous the fakes are.</b> I was born at night but not last night! </span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">PS You should get an expensive stereomicroscope to study the big cents (if you don't have one). It will open up a whole new world of numismatics to you and make coin attributions much quicker. </span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">PS I'll look forward to meeting you at a show one day and picking your brain. </span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 179)"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 179)"></span>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 3011804, member: 24314"][COLOR=rgb(179, 0, 179)]Jack D. Young, posted: "You worked at ANACS? And now ICG? Does ICG have the "stereomicroscope" you keep referring to?"[/COLOR] Yes, Jack. When I was about 6 or 7, my grandfather gave me an antique French brass microscope and a collection of slides. I still have it. Since then, I've used a microscope to look at things in Biology classes in high school and Biology, Mineralogy, and Genetic classes in college. Funny thing, I never looked at a coin with one until joining ANACS. The Mint authenticators used them and they trained my boss how to authenticate coins. Since then (almost 50 years), I've used a stereo microscope every where I've worked including NGC and NCS. BTW, I think one reason the second tier TPGS are so strict is they use stereomicroscopes to examine coins. I RARELY grade or authenticate ANY coin without looking at it with my [B][COLOR=rgb(255, 0, 0)]eyes [/COLOR][/B]first. The [B][COLOR=rgb(255, 0, 0)]scope and florescent light[/COLOR][/B] (4.5X and two eyes unless more magnification needed) second and finally a [B][COLOR=rgb(255, 0, 0)]7X hand lens[/COLOR][/B]. You see Jack, I wish to see everything possible to see on a coin in order to make an informed opinion. Then I want to see what 98% of the other people can see with just their hand lens. Additionally, after seeing the characteristics on coins under high magnification a student is able to ID them with a low power hand lens. I puke when I see well-known, knowledgeable, professionals discussing something on a coin for several minutes when it should have only taken a few seconds if they had been trained with a scope. [COLOR=rgb(179, 0, 179)]Also, do you really feel that non-seasoned copper collectors are actually "these idiots you mention" as you previously stated? Wow, talk about "self serving" [/COLOR] [COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]Nice try Jack. The idiots are the folks who don't believe a TPGS can make an honest mistake. The idiots are those who you show a very deceptive RAW fake yet they don't believe you and think you are lying that it was ever in a slab. [/COLOR] [COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]IMHO, [B]the only "Self-Serving" going on is being done by those "experts" showing counterfeits in TPGS slabs and claiming they are doing it to show how dangerous the fakes are.[/B] I was born at night but not last night! PS You should get an expensive stereomicroscope to study the big cents (if you don't have one). It will open up a whole new world of numismatics to you and make coin attributions much quicker. PS I'll look forward to meeting you at a show one day and picking your brain. [/COLOR] [COLOR=rgb(179, 0, 179)] [/COLOR][/QUOTE]
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