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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Jack D. Young, post: 3009006, member: 93371&quot;]That’s part of what’s good about forums like this, the ability to share dissenting opinions.</p><p><br /></p><p>I agree the TPG’s have a large impact on collectors and the Hobby in general and certainly provide a service to both. I am neither for or against TPG’s, and I know mistakes are human and happen in both authentication and (perceived) grading, with the major TPG’s guarantee of authenticity being the largest benefit of the service in my opinion, but many hobbyists and collectors take the labeled opinion as gospel.</p><p><br /></p><p>TPG’s and slabs are no substitute to collector knowledge (again in my opinion), and showing a non-seasoned copper collector one of the fakes in a slab typically leads to disbelief and lively discussions on just how can that be? On the other hand, I have shown large scale images of a fake example to collectors only to have them state it is “obvious” and a “TPG” would see right through it until they see the actual imaged example in the slab. Unfortunately the slabs give credence to just HOW DECEPTIVE THESE EXAMPLES ACTUALLY ARE, as they have passed both knowledgeable collectors and TPG graders as well.</p><p><br /></p><p>Not sure how showing these in the slabs or putting them in individual’s hands to review against other known examples is “self-serving” or a “grandstanding circus act”, but that is your opinion, although I should have stated that the displays and counterfeit detection seminars these are displayed in have only been at EAC (Early American Coppers) functions to date.</p><p><br /></p><p>And yes, the 1847 Hawaiian large cent is one of the struck fakes also “out there”, along with many silver denominations including struck fake 1836 Gobrecht “dollars”.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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