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Message:: [QUOTE="cpm9ball, post: 1778952, member: 24633"]I don't consider it being argumentative at all. It is just one of the ways that enables all of us to learn. However, I do have to disagree with you that the reverse "has no indentations, everything is raised". If you look at the two marks directly above the eagle's head, you can see that the indentations have pushed metal out of and onto the upper side of each recess. I've often referred to this as the "crater effect" in that the displaced metal has to go somewhere just like when a meteorite strikes the earth. The displaced earth builds up along the rim of the impact crater, much of which is on the side of the crater in the direction of travel of the meteorite. In the case of your quarter, the (PMD) strike was made at a slight angle away from the eagle's head toward the rim at 12 o'clock. You should also note that some of the devices and initial damage on the obverse appears to be "mashed down" which suggests that it was caused by strikes on the reverse while the coin laid on a hard surface (like an anvil or something). I don't know what type of tool or gizmo the person who caused this was using, but it seems obvious that he had nothing better to do with his time. Chris[/QUOTE]