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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;doppeltaler, post: 2188141, member: 73593&quot;]I was browsing mashops last night and noticed this disclaimer mentioned by a dealer and was surprised.</p><p><br /></p><p>In Germany the edge of the coin is the first point to look at. Edgenicks bump a coin down minimum one grade in value. Dipping must not be mentioned due to the German grading rules. Hairlines from wiping ( Berieben ) and edenicks ( Randfehler ) must be mentioned also mounting marks and filing marks at the edge and other grave damages.</p><p>Germany doesn´t have any not US based third part grading services. </p><p>There are no technical grades in Germany like &quot;Details&quot; and&nbsp; also no designations like &quot;full band&quot; &quot;full steps&quot; etc !</p><p>The color of copper and bronze coins must not be mentioned, no red, rb or brown ! </p><p>Split grades are regular in Germany. Av and Rev. of the coin count equal.</p><p>Proof has only three grades in Germany.</p><p><br /></p><p>Why not mention the dipping in the description ? I was thinking bidding in one of the German auctions and now i have to think twice before i bid.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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