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<p>[QUOTE="BooksB4Coins, post: 3198515, member: 36230"]There's a <i>huge</i> difference between forcing a retailer to shoulder the perfectly reasonable burden you're paying them for, and simply expecting those participating on a volunteer forum to eagerly do the same, often repeatedly. This, of course, doesn't even take those who throw tantrums or play victim into consideration. I cannot deny that a few newcomers are often treated rather harshly, but often there's more to it, sometimes in the form of a history with the individual from other threads. Oftentimes, a quick look at someone's posting history can be an enlightening experience, but in cases where it's unwarranted, someone usually steps up and/or calls others on it.</p><p><br /></p><p>Anyone who pays fair attention to this sort of thing has to realize there are many who simply will not do for themselves no matter how much assistance is offered. On the other hand there is many examples of someone who came here asking the same basic questions, took the advice given to heart, and have shown exactly what can happen people both appreciate and take advice seriously. This forum should be a two-way street instead of the numismatic equivalent of Romper Room. Sometimes folks reap what they sow.</p><p><br /></p><p>Those who want to spend their forum time answering the same basic questions again and again for the same person is more than welcome to do so. No one is going to stop them, but the sad fact is that more often than not, the people screaming loudest about the supposed mistreatment of newcomers are also the ones who give the least. I'm not saying this is the case with you, John, but is something we've seen again and again. Unfortunately, it's easier to berate others actually trying to help than it is to invest our own energies into following their lead.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="BooksB4Coins, post: 3198515, member: 36230"]There's a [I]huge[/I] difference between forcing a retailer to shoulder the perfectly reasonable burden you're paying them for, and simply expecting those participating on a volunteer forum to eagerly do the same, often repeatedly. This, of course, doesn't even take those who throw tantrums or play victim into consideration. I cannot deny that a few newcomers are often treated rather harshly, but often there's more to it, sometimes in the form of a history with the individual from other threads. Oftentimes, a quick look at someone's posting history can be an enlightening experience, but in cases where it's unwarranted, someone usually steps up and/or calls others on it. Anyone who pays fair attention to this sort of thing has to realize there are many who simply will not do for themselves no matter how much assistance is offered. On the other hand there is many examples of someone who came here asking the same basic questions, took the advice given to heart, and have shown exactly what can happen people both appreciate and take advice seriously. This forum should be a two-way street instead of the numismatic equivalent of Romper Room. Sometimes folks reap what they sow. Those who want to spend their forum time answering the same basic questions again and again for the same person is more than welcome to do so. No one is going to stop them, but the sad fact is that more often than not, the people screaming loudest about the supposed mistreatment of newcomers are also the ones who give the least. I'm not saying this is the case with you, John, but is something we've seen again and again. Unfortunately, it's easier to berate others actually trying to help than it is to invest our own energies into following their lead.[/QUOTE]
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