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<p>[QUOTE="Dynoking, post: 8258816, member: 81795"]<i>That's not the situation at all though, the situation is, "hey dynoking bought a car second hand and has a receipt for it, but apparently it was at least reported to the DMV. </i><b>The DMV gets its info from a national stolen vehicle date base mentioned by the FBI not the victim.</b><i> (by what someone answering the phone said at the DMV) </i><b>If you contact the NYS DMV Title Bureau you may receive the information that they have on file. That information comes from a national data base. If you are unsure you should do that before you make the purchase just like the OP did before he made his.</b></p><p><i>that the tag was reported stolen on the car, no idea if it was reported stolen to the police, </i><b>Again the DMV gets its info from law enforcement. </b>nobody seems to be actively looking for it, <b>True but... </b>who knows what comes next from it, <b>...wait for it... </b><i>but Dynoking should give up the car he paid for and holds a receipt for because some customer service representative said so? .</i><b>.. here it is... True! When DK goes to register and title the vehicle at the DMV the transaction will be flagged all paper work submitted including DK's drivers license will not be returned and the issue handed over to law enforcement. Law enforcement who will find DK and his involvement with the procurement of the vehicle. </b></p><p><b>Paying for stolen property does not made you the owner. At that point you are either a victim or an accomplice. DK's actions, inactions, or choices will decide that.</b></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>As it relates to Dynokings car he bought, do you give it to the DMV and eat the loss on it on the word of some jabronie that picked up the phone at the DMV? </i><b>If DK already bought it he is stuck with the headache. Demand money from back from seller, turn the matter over to law enforcement, or slap a set of whop tee doo plates and registration sticker on it and hope for the best. During the next traffic stop DK will probably be arrested for possession of stolen vehicle or even theft of vehicle if he doesn't come up with a credible story.</b></p><p><i>Why can't PCGS be the good Samaritan, call the person that submitted it and find out what the deal is at this point and then relay the message? habe the guy who bought it returns it and give up the auction house or seller to the guy that has his property stolen, and they can recover it?</i></p><p><i>they have no problem being a third party grader, but it's too much work for them to connect people to their stolen coins again after grading, while claiming to help if the coins do get stolen?</i></p><p><b>PCGS either states the info is lost or the coin was reported stolen. If the records were lost maybe a refund of grading fee's would be appropriate. If the coin was reported stolen but they can't find the submitter because the records were lost what can they do at that point? Refund the money to the current submitter of the coin? No. Why? Because if the coin does come back they are (possibly) in possession of stolen property. The only thing a publicly traded corporation is turn it over to law enforcement. </b></p><p><b>Bottom line is think something stay away from it. If you decide to use some of the thought processes posted here to provide rational to get involved stolen property be prepared to take a hit when the whip comes down. Claiming stupidity is not going to get you undone. </b></p><p><b>Bold face font used to hi-light my responses, not to be construed as shouting or driving my position home.</b></p><p>Have we beaten this dead horse enough? I think so!</p><p><br /></p><p>It's St. Patricks Day! I have corned beef in the pot, Guinness Stout, and Jameson in the ice box. Any one who wants to come to Queens County NY is welcome to stop over and celebrate! PEACE![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Dynoking, post: 8258816, member: 81795"][I]That's not the situation at all though, the situation is, "hey dynoking bought a car second hand and has a receipt for it, but apparently it was at least reported to the DMV. [/I][B]The DMV gets its info from a national stolen vehicle date base mentioned by the FBI not the victim.[/B][I] (by what someone answering the phone said at the DMV) [/I][B]If you contact the NYS DMV Title Bureau you may receive the information that they have on file. That information comes from a national data base. If you are unsure you should do that before you make the purchase just like the OP did before he made his.[/B] [I]that the tag was reported stolen on the car, no idea if it was reported stolen to the police, [/I][B]Again the DMV gets its info from law enforcement. [/B]nobody seems to be actively looking for it, [B]True but... [/B]who knows what comes next from it, [B]...wait for it... [/B][I]but Dynoking should give up the car he paid for and holds a receipt for because some customer service representative said so? .[/I][B].. here it is... True! When DK goes to register and title the vehicle at the DMV the transaction will be flagged all paper work submitted including DK's drivers license will not be returned and the issue handed over to law enforcement. Law enforcement who will find DK and his involvement with the procurement of the vehicle. Paying for stolen property does not made you the owner. At that point you are either a victim or an accomplice. DK's actions, inactions, or choices will decide that.[/B] [I] As it relates to Dynokings car he bought, do you give it to the DMV and eat the loss on it on the word of some jabronie that picked up the phone at the DMV? [/I][B]If DK already bought it he is stuck with the headache. Demand money from back from seller, turn the matter over to law enforcement, or slap a set of whop tee doo plates and registration sticker on it and hope for the best. During the next traffic stop DK will probably be arrested for possession of stolen vehicle or even theft of vehicle if he doesn't come up with a credible story.[/B] [I]Why can't PCGS be the good Samaritan, call the person that submitted it and find out what the deal is at this point and then relay the message? habe the guy who bought it returns it and give up the auction house or seller to the guy that has his property stolen, and they can recover it? they have no problem being a third party grader, but it's too much work for them to connect people to their stolen coins again after grading, while claiming to help if the coins do get stolen?[/I] [B]PCGS either states the info is lost or the coin was reported stolen. If the records were lost maybe a refund of grading fee's would be appropriate. If the coin was reported stolen but they can't find the submitter because the records were lost what can they do at that point? Refund the money to the current submitter of the coin? No. Why? Because if the coin does come back they are (possibly) in possession of stolen property. The only thing a publicly traded corporation is turn it over to law enforcement. Bottom line is think something stay away from it. If you decide to use some of the thought processes posted here to provide rational to get involved stolen property be prepared to take a hit when the whip comes down. Claiming stupidity is not going to get you undone. Bold face font used to hi-light my responses, not to be construed as shouting or driving my position home.[/B] Have we beaten this dead horse enough? I think so! It's St. Patricks Day! I have corned beef in the pot, Guinness Stout, and Jameson in the ice box. Any one who wants to come to Queens County NY is welcome to stop over and celebrate! PEACE![/QUOTE]
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