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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;John Burgess, post: 8258423, member: 105098&quot;]Yes initial post is a heads up, post #15 and #16 then poses a question which opens it up for debate on legalities, even if the OP doesn&#039;t intend to have anything to do with a stolen coin. from that point on it becomes a debate on legalities, moral obligations, yada yada.</p><p><br /></p><p>Also a valid point that PCGS has lost a fair amount of old records, and likely has no idea if it was stolen, or just not activated because they lost the record of it. But from a PR standpoint,&nbsp; much better to claim it&#039;s not active because it was reported stolen then to tell people they don&#039;t have their act together on the database record keeping. Its not like the person answering the phones or emails at PCGS is some official entity, just some representative for the company running customer service.</p><p><br /></p><p>if you own a coin shop, or any reselling business, a pawn shop, whatever, just eat the losses? you buy auctioned items, just eat the loses again if someone claims an item was stolen at some point from someone with no real evidence of it actually being stolen or owned by anyone else that holds title to it?</p><p>I get your moral highground &quot;stolen is stolen, no exceptions.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>&quot;<i>Hey I just saw Dynoking driving my car that was stolen from me. I reported it but it was sooo long ago it doesn&#039;t even matter. Gee I hope he doesn&#039;t scratch the paint.&quot;</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>That&#039;s not the situation at all though, the situation is, &quot;hey dynoking bought a car second hand and has a receipt for it, but apparently it was at least reported to the DMV (by what someone answering the phone said at the DMV) that the tag was reported stolen on the car, no idea if it was reported stolen to the police, nobody seems to be actively looking for it, who knows what comes next from it, but Dynoking should give up the car he paid for and holds a receipt for because some customer service representative said so?&quot;</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>That&#039;s the situation. I&#039;d agree, I wouldn&#039;t want anything to do with something that sketchy, stolen is stolen IF it was actually stolen.&nbsp; However, I see no evidence to back up the validity of the claim PCGS made that it was in fact stolen. Also I find PCGS wanting it sent to them without compensation, so they can return it to the owner to be very suspect also, who knows how many hands it&#039;s changed since it was graded, it&#039;s not like people dont&#039; report guns stolen, but they were sold to sketchy people that will never put their own name on the firearm. </i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>As it relates to Dynokings car he bought, do you give it to the DMV and eat the loss on it on the word of some jabronie that picked up the phone at the DMV? </i></p><p><i>Why can&#039;t PCGS be the good Samaritan, call the person that submitted it and find out what the deal is at this point and then relay the message? habe the guy who bought it returns it and give up the auction house or seller to the guy that has his property stolen, and they can recover it?</i></p><p><i>&nbsp;they have no problem being a third party grader, but it&#039;s too much work for them to connect people to their stolen coins again after grading, while claiming to help if the coins do get stolen?</i></p><p><br /></p><p>As said, if it&#039;s fishy, I&#039;d pass, I just don&#039;t need any hassle in my life no matter how bad I want a coin or an item. But this system is broken to begin with and PCGS&#039;s&nbsp; answer is &quot;send it to us and take a loss&quot;.&nbsp; Yeah, that will get a coin back to its rightful owner after a theft......[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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