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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;physics-fan3.14, post: 2229632, member: 19165&quot;]It&#039;s all good. Understanding original vs. monkeyed with surfaces is not easy. The ones I linked above have really good eye appeal, and are all original enough to satisfy me (you can never be 100% sure something has never been messed with - you can only be sure that it doesn&#039;t look like it has, or has recovered enough to look like it)</p><p><br /></p><p>Unfortunately, a lot of what you see, even in TPG slabs, have been messed with. If it is too white (or even pale), it&#039;s probably been dipped. Especially once you get below AU, a white coin is just not right (even an AU coin should have some skin). Many consider this to be acceptable - I don&#039;t. Compare the good ones I linked above with these linked below. Each of these has a problem, and you should avoid ones like these:</p><p><br /></p><p>This one is spotty and unattractive. It was definitely dipped, but the obverse has retoned (irregularly). Notice how pale the reverse is. Many would have no problem buying this coin, but it is not pretty: <a href="http://coins.ha.com/itm/seated-dollars/silver-and-related-dollars/1841-1-xf45-ngc-ngc-census-28-179-pcgs-population-70-205-mintage-173-000-numismedia-wsl-price-for-problem-free/a/1223-7900.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://coins.ha.com/itm/seated-dollars/silver-and-related-dollars/1841-1-xf45-ngc-ngc-census-28-179-pcgs-population-70-205-mintage-173-000-numismedia-wsl-price-for-problem-free/a/1223-7900.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515" rel="nofollow">http://coins.ha.com/itm/seated-dollars/silver-and-related-dollars/1841-1-xf45-ngc-ngc-census-28-179-pcgs-population-70-205-mintage-173-000-numismedia-wsl-price-for-problem-free/a/1223-7900.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Ugh, this one is just an eyesore. It is blast white like the day it was made.... but it shouldn&#039;t be. This one was dipped recently. If you see one like this, run away: <a href="http://coins.ha.com/itm/seated-dollars/silver-and-related-dollars/1847-1-xf45-pcgs-pcgs-population-126-351-ngc-census-66-347-mintage-140-750-numismedia-wsl-price-for-problem-fre/a/1223-7903.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://coins.ha.com/itm/seated-dollars/silver-and-related-dollars/1847-1-xf45-pcgs-pcgs-population-126-351-ngc-census-66-347-mintage-140-750-numismedia-wsl-price-for-problem-fre/a/1223-7903.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515" rel="nofollow">http://coins.ha.com/itm/seated-dollars/silver-and-related-dollars/1847-1-xf45-pcgs-pcgs-population-126-351-ngc-census-66-347-mintage-140-750-numismedia-wsl-price-for-problem-fre/a/1223-7903.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515</a></p><p><br /></p><p>This one was also dipped. See the orange &quot;toning&quot; on this one? That&#039;s not really toning. The dip was improperly rinsed - it is dip residue that has begun to turn. UGLY: <a href="http://coins.ha.com/itm/seated-dollars/silver-and-related-dollars/1872-1-xf45-ngc-ngc-census-74-265-pcgs-population-89-304-mintage-1-106-450-numismedia-wsl-price-for-problem-fre/a/1223-7905.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://coins.ha.com/itm/seated-dollars/silver-and-related-dollars/1872-1-xf45-ngc-ngc-census-74-265-pcgs-population-89-304-mintage-1-106-450-numismedia-wsl-price-for-problem-fre/a/1223-7905.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515" rel="nofollow">http://coins.ha.com/itm/seated-dollars/silver-and-related-dollars/1872-1-xf45-ngc-ngc-census-74-265-pcgs-population-89-304-mintage-1-106-450-numismedia-wsl-price-for-problem-fre/a/1223-7905.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Woof, what a dog. This one has been dipped (note the pale centers), but is retoning in a way that some find attractive (with the blues around the edges). That&#039;s fine if you like the look, but I don&#039;t. Additionally, there is a huge gash at the top. Also, its been overgraded by at least 10 points - this should be in a VF holder at the most: <a href="http://coins.ha.com/itm/seated-dollars/silver-and-related-dollars/1842-1-xf45-pcgs-pcgs-population-144-335-ngc-census-87-365-mintage-184-618-numismedia-wsl-price-for-problem-fre/a/1221-7893.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://coins.ha.com/itm/seated-dollars/silver-and-related-dollars/1842-1-xf45-pcgs-pcgs-population-144-335-ngc-census-87-365-mintage-184-618-numismedia-wsl-price-for-problem-fre/a/1221-7893.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515" rel="nofollow">http://coins.ha.com/itm/seated-dollars/silver-and-related-dollars/1842-1-xf45-pcgs-pcgs-population-144-335-ngc-census-87-365-mintage-184-618-numismedia-wsl-price-for-problem-fre/a/1221-7893.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Cleaned! Albeit, a long time ago, and it has started to retone. If treated properly (by which I mean, 20 years in an envelope or album), this one may have potential to regain its semi-original surface: <a href="http://coins.ha.com/itm/seated-dollars/silver-and-related-dollars/1845-1-xf40-pcgs-pcgs-population-37-176-ngc-census-14-147-mintage-24-500-numismedia-wsl-price-for-problem-free/a/1219-8038.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://coins.ha.com/itm/seated-dollars/silver-and-related-dollars/1845-1-xf40-pcgs-pcgs-population-37-176-ngc-census-14-147-mintage-24-500-numismedia-wsl-price-for-problem-free/a/1219-8038.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515" rel="nofollow">http://coins.ha.com/itm/seated-dollars/silver-and-related-dollars/1845-1-xf40-pcgs-pcgs-population-37-176-ngc-census-14-147-mintage-24-500-numismedia-wsl-price-for-problem-free/a/1219-8038.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515</a></p><p><br /></p><p>There is no way an EF coin 150 years old should be this pale, unless she saw a ghost: <a href="http://coins.ha.com/itm/seated-dollars/silver-and-related-dollars/1861-1-xf40-pcgs/a/1219-4835.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://coins.ha.com/itm/seated-dollars/silver-and-related-dollars/1861-1-xf40-pcgs/a/1219-4835.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515" rel="nofollow">http://coins.ha.com/itm/seated-dollars/silver-and-related-dollars/1861-1-xf40-pcgs/a/1219-4835.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515</a></p><p><br /></p><p>I do hope you are beginning to see what I&#039;m talking about here.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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