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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;otlichnik, post: 6346539, member: 109731&quot;]Those do not appear to be real uncleaned.&nbsp; What I mean is that it appears that they were cleaned, likely by chemical bath, prior to your before photo.&nbsp; This is very common with many &quot;uncleaned lots&quot; being sold today.&nbsp; They have already been subject to often-harsh cleaning in an attempt to find silver or scarer types.&nbsp; There can still be some dirt or gunk on them though.</p><p><br /></p><p>You are therefore left engaging in what can often be described as restoration or protection as much as cleaning.&nbsp; It is often much more difficult to get a good result than with a true uncleaned coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>Your before-after photos show that you have definitely improved both coins a great deal!</p><p><br /></p><p>Sc[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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